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Tuning to E flat for songs originally written that way -do you do it?

That's kind of what I'm thinking. Do you use a D-Tuner, tune the whole bass down or just the E string?

I have a bass kept all tuned down for anything that calls for flat tunings, keeps the patterns the same, though I do use Drop-D, I don't use it for Eb stuff.

A few times, where the only bass I had was Eb, and I needed standard tuning, I've used a capo on the 1st fret.
 
HI

There are some songs we play that were recorded half step down. They way we handle it is to group them together. The guitarist and I switch instruments for those tunes. Easier for our singer and I(the other main vocalist) that way. Cover gigs are brutal, you sing all night. Dont make it any harder on yourselves

Rob
 
HI

There are some songs we play that were recorded half step down. They way we handle it is to group them together. The guitarist and I switch instruments for those tunes. Easier for our singer and I(the other main vocalist) that way. Cover gigs are brutal, you sing all night. Dont make it any harder on yourselves

Rob

That's good thinking. Thanks. :) No I don't want to make it any harder on myself, which spurred the original question. I'd rather play the song in the original key, because I think it sounds right. When you start transposing something gets lost, IMO.
 
HI

I agree. They do sound different. If you sing all night, you understand why I said what I said. We group our songs together and switch guitars. I think we play 6 or 7 that we detune a half step. Sounds awesome.

Rob
 
i really don't think the crowd notices one way or the other, so why not just pick a tuning that the whole band uses and stick with it?

i always joke that here in virginia beach there's a city ordinance requiring all cover bands to tune a half-step down, but we do it too, so we can save the singers' voices and open up the range of what we can pull off.

songs that were originally played in standard get dropped a half-step, and songs that were originally a half-step down get played the same. (we can usually figure that out by listening for certain guitar chord voicings or low open-string notes).

no way is it worth bringing out extra guitars or trying to re-tune all the strings between songs. it's also silly IMO to take a song that naturally falls under your fingers in its original tuning and try to play it in the original key with all the instruments tuned "wrong" for that song.

not so big a deal for bass players (especially extended-range guys), but for us guitar players, we lose all the chiming open-chord voicings and clear low-string tones that are often in the original version, forcing us to play dumb-sounding closed barre chords up high instead.

pop-rock stuff is not like jazz or blues, where you pick a song, pick a key, and off you go. the specific way they were originally played on guitar (and often bass too) matters much more in getting the right sound of the song.

if we were in standard, we would just transpose up songs that were originally a half-step down, assuming that we could still sing them.
 
We play 'em as written, and if that's Eb, then so be it. My guitarist transposes and plays some in standard tuning, and he has a 2nd guitar that's tuned down for a few songs. We bunch those together in the sets to reduce guitar-change down-time, though he's very fast at it.

I play a couple of the songs in standard tuning, but mostly I just drop the E string 1/2 step to hit the lowest note, and transpose the notes on the other strings. It only takes a second to do, and we're off and running.

We have a couple of songs in D, as well, that I drop tune for if I want that bottom note as it was originally played. I'm not a big fan of playing a 5-er, so I do the extra work.

As far as it messing with your head or screwing you up...huh? The note is the note. Listen for what it is, not where you play it on the fingerboard.
 
The whole point of using an Eb bass rather than a 5 string is you get to take adavantage of the open strings and play the song in position that is a bit more comfortable to play. On a 4 hr cover gig, you never know when your singer might need you to pick up those Eb if he/she is not feeling exactly up to snuff.
 
If most of what you are doing is Eb (such as an SRV cover band) then I would go ahead and tune down. If most of your songs are standard tuning and only a few in Eb then I would probably just transpose to E. Yes is will sound slightly different but you will get used to it quickly and the audience probably won't notice or care.
 
In my current band we all tune Eb, although I am the only one who smokes...

If you want to stay true to the original key of the songs, the easiest way is to have two basses. I have had to do that in the past and had Hipshot D-Tuners on both for drop D.
 
Half a step isn't much...but it's enough to screw with your bass set-up.
Unless you put bigger strings on...too much flabby "slop" if you ask me.

This. I hate these non standart tunings. The strings feel so sloppy.
Also, if the singer can't sing, he shouldn't sing. I mean, if half step makes that much of a difference to him, or her, then it is because he is struggling to sing the songs, and has the wrong range for these songs. I really hate when I am asked to adapt my playing and my instrument to a bad singer.
 
I've played in flat tuning most of my playing life. When it comes to songs that were originally 1/2 a step higher, we (my cover band) just bring 'em down. No hassles at all and one less guitar tuning for my six string com-padres to worry about. There's a top draw band around here that does just the opposite - tuned standard and they transpose the flat songs a 1/2 step up so I guess it boils down to what the majority of the band prefers. Getting your band to tune to low Bb - now that's an issue rife with bellyaching from guitarists :D
 
When a situation calls for an instrument that is tuned differently, use a different instrument. Retuning the same one will mess with your setup and it probably ain't that good for your instrument and your strings...

On the other hand, I never felt that the situation called for a different tuning. When we had to transpose for our singer, I just adapted the lines... it sure feels different, but it can also work - you have to make it work :P

but sure, if you want a cover to be perfect, you gotta do whatever it is necessary to sound as close as possible. i just don't think it makes sense unless you're in a tribute band. or if you're looking for a "reason" to buy a new instrument :P