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Two Note Torpedo CAB M
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Same boat. Jacoby and I pre-ordered together. Looking forward to going down this same path of experimentation.
jacoby75
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I just bought a Cab M+ and looking to use it with my Mesa Subway+ pre-amp pedal. I'm a bit new with the whole pedal setup. Would I take the output from the subway into the guitar/amp in on the Cab M+ and then take either the line out or Di out from the Cab M+ to my audio interface?
I’d recommend getting the two notes 8x10 cab sim. It’s the only one I’ve purchased and it’s good.
The software allows you to demo different cabs before purchasing.
It’s a very cool device. I do miss the foot switches from the original c.a.b, but the size makes up for it I guess.
The software allows you to demo different cabs before purchasing.
It’s a very cool device. I do miss the foot switches from the original c.a.b, but the size makes up for it I guess.
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I got my Cab M+ today. Gotta say I'm really struggling with it. For starters, there is a sort of a "digital hiss", for lack of a better term, out of the headphones the whole time. It happens whether I use the headphone out of the CabM or the XLR out to my monitoring device. Also, when I use my MXR Iso-Brick, it's terribly noisy. It's less noisy with its own power supply. I'm having a hard time finding a necessary tone out of it so far. Fiddled a while with the Fridge cab and preamp/power amp settings, and it's getting better, but still hissy. The hiss might be due in part to the dirty, ungrounded power in my upstairs space. I'm going to take it downstairs in a bit and see if it's any better.
Any suggestions for your favorite cab/mic settings would be much appreciated.
Also, on a side note, it seems to render many of my effects pedals superfluous. Like, I have a couple of boosts, a Broughton RFE, and others, that seem to have little to no effect through the CabM, which might be normal. If anything, they just make it sound worse. I have found so far that less is more when it comes to having other pedals, always-on-tone-enhancing things in front of the Cab M.
Any suggestions for your favorite cab/mic settings would be much appreciated.
Also, on a side note, it seems to render many of my effects pedals superfluous. Like, I have a couple of boosts, a Broughton RFE, and others, that seem to have little to no effect through the CabM, which might be normal. If anything, they just make it sound worse. I have found so far that less is more when it comes to having other pedals, always-on-tone-enhancing things in front of the Cab M.
Did you mess with the Noise Gate?
I was struggling too at first. I was also trying to do everything on the unit. Using the Remote software helped open things up a bit for me.
I think the main thing I have learned so far is that there are so many variables that interact heavily with each other. Preamp, EQ, Enhancer, Tubes, Push-Pull vs. Single Ended, Pentode vs. Triode, Contour, Depth, etc.
If I want thicker/bigger/fatter do I increase the Contour or increase the Bass or increase the Depth or change from 6L6 to KT88, etc. If I need to lean out a bit, do I want to decrease the Contour, go back to 6L6's, or decrease 300Hz some? Or a combo? If I want to add brightness do I do it via EQ, via Brilliance, or via a different mic at center axis?
I think that is the biggest hurdle. Tons of variables and most of them stack to a degree. I plugged straight in, guitar in to M+ and got my hands dirty in the Remote software just to start learning what everything did and how they play with each other.
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Good stuff. It definitely is way more complicated than I expected/hoped it would be. There are a ton of variables. I expected to just plop it at the end of my pedalboard and it would sound good. It did not. I think I might wind up with a smaller, simpler pedalboard with just this and a compressor, maybe a preamp. Many of the other flavor-enhancers of my board seem ineffective with this. Or at least less effective than when using a straight pedalboard. Also, the built in preamp and power amp of the CabM are pretty good, and flexible. And I haven't even touched the EQ, enhancer, etc., yet.
As for the noise gate, it didn't make a difference. It's a noise inherent to the unit, not from a patch or the signal hitting the unit. I tried it briefly downstairs in the "better electricity" part of my house and it seems better. That might be the solution. But it really, really does not like dirty electricity, apparently.
I agree though. Playing straight in was much easier to learn about the unit. I did the same as you, just threw it on the end of the board and used the onboard menu to fiddle.
Plug it in to your PC and use the Remote software to fiddle. Also, the software lets you sample the other cabs available in their store. The Fat Papa and the Subway cabs sound really good. In addition, the mic selection isn't static. As I was running through sample cabs I noticed they each have a different assortment of mics.
Tons to mess with. I think I have settled on PP 6L6 with Contour around 25-30% and Depth around 40-50%.
I'm still messing with the rest, but, I was running EQ relatively flat with a slight bump at 4k and the HPF at 45Hz. I ran the Enhancer pretty mild (can't remember the percentages right now) with about a 50% blend. The Preamp I ran flat with a slight Mid cut (40%?)
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Yes, the remote software is waaaaay easier. Even on the smartphone app. Where did you see the HPF?
You guys ever have problems with your phones consistently dropping the BT connection? Seems to be happening to me. Maybe I need to update the firmware on the unit
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That would be the one problem I have NOT had. When I synced it with my computer, it did update the firmware.
Does anyone know if they can put the bass amp di into this so you can use this front of house with a cab sim if so I will definitely buy this to go with my Mesa walkabout combo.
Just ordered a torpedo cab m+. I've been running a q strip in my le bass effects loop but plan on replacing it with the torpedo (adjustable hpf and semi parametric eg and cab sims/ir's for same price as q strip). If it's in the effects loop, will the cab sims come out of my le bass di? Or do I need to run it last in the chain and use the torpedo di to FOH?
I no longer own a LeBass preamp but I believe if you put the Cab M in effects loop it will be in the LeBass DI output. I would put the Cab M last in ths chain. That is how I currently use it on my board.
Tuner>Whammy> DG Compressor>Aguilar Fuzz>DG VMT OD>DG B7KU>MXR Envelope Filter>Source Audio C4>Mesa Subway DI+>Cab M+
I'm still a noob with the Cab M+ but this Friday Im playing my first Cab M ampless gig with a FOH engineer and I have a bunch of PreSets I made to try out and see if 1 works well for the room.
