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U.S. Peavey Club

#27,201
Got the Gen 1 Fury in from GC used today. $349 no case. The action is mile high and the saddles are pretty low. It looks like the neck has never been tweaked and it definitely needs tightening. I just gotta get a proper tool to do it. The bass is like mint condition. Not a scratch on it, but the first couple frets are pretty chewed up.

Wonder if I should return it or if it's fixable?

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#27,203
The Ancient One said:
Should I pull the trigger? Peavey Foundation 2000. I understand the older models may have better pickups. I haven't seen this in person but from the pics look like it's in good condition. Anything I should look for with this particular model.? Asking $300 w/case. As always advice good or bad appreciated.;)
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I just bought a five string close to this model.

Yours has a case.. interesting paint color...

This era foundation does not have a resale cult following.

The net quality is consistently good---- verify the neck is arrow straight and paint isn't dinged up and chipped











PVt40man said:
On another note, what is the definitive 2022 answer for what truss rod tool works with these old Peaveys? I bought a 5/16th one and can't fit it anywhere near the rod.
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The All parts combo tool for Gibson (looks like a leprechaun pipe)
 
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PVt40man said:
Got the Gen 1 Fury in from GC used today. $349 no case. The action is mile high and the saddles are pretty low. It looks like the neck has never been tweaked and it definitely needs tightening. I just gotta get a proper tool to do it. The bass is like mint condition. Not a scratch on it, but the first couple frets are pretty chewed up.

Wonder if I should return it or if it's fixable?

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Opinion--at that price is return it ... To many other bases that will not need a refret
 
#27,207
PVt40man said:
Got the Gen 1 Fury in from GC used today. $349 no case. The action is mile high and the saddles are pretty low. It looks like the neck has never been tweaked and it definitely needs tightening. I just gotta get a proper tool to do it. The bass is like mint condition. Not a scratch on it, but the first couple frets are pretty chewed up.

Wonder if I should return it or if it's fixable?

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I'd get the neck relief in order and then shim the neck pocket a very little bit on the bridgeward side. That should allow the saddles to have a little room for movement and not bottom out.
Sometimes, I have had to remove a very little bit of the wood from the truss rod rout, on the side nearest the nut, to get my 5/16" Gibson tools to reach the truss (or is it trust?) rod nut on the older Peaveys. The truss cover will hide your work. Seems that the truss nut stuck out further by the time the T series were discontinued.
 
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PVt40man said:
first couple frets are pretty chewed up.

Wonder if I should return it or if it's fixable?
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Before starting anything, is take it to a quality shop. Unsure what your frets are like.

I'm unsure what "chewed up" means

Fret Quote
Example, I have a rare guitar. There is no neck binding. To have frets removed pressed was $60... I then paid to have them leveled and dressed. I bought the custom boutique for $600 by the time it was fine I had another $600 into repairs (it's a solid $1000 guitar - nobody knows the luthier)


I've also bought a ton of USA peaveys that were ignored.. a portion had neck issues

Neck Inspection
A tenured luthier can quickly see if s bass has a jump (small bump) or twist.

I recently had a neck press straightened... This was a $60 gamble.

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Due to lack of shop time, I often send repairs out.

I'd walk into my preferred shop (with a $10 bill/tip). "Is the able to be arrow straight... How much to fix these "chewed frets"

Example: My girlfriend feel in love with a blue Ibanez acoustic. I wanted it to be "her guitar." She brought it into a shop with $10... The tech informed her that is needed about $300 in repairs (and that it was better to just buy a new one).

She returned it to the local selling store within an hour and continued shopping.
 
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MNAirHead said:
Before starting anything, is take it to a quality shop. Unsure what your frets are like.

I'm unsure what "chewed up" means

Fret Quote
Example, I have a rare guitar. There is no neck binding. To have frets removed pressed was $60... I then paid to have them leveled and dressed. I bought the custom boutique for $600 by the time it was fine I had another $600 into repairs (it's a solid $1000 guitar - nobody knows the luthier)


I've also bought a ton of USA peaveys that were ignored.. a portion had neck issues

Neck Inspection
A tenured luthier can quickly see if s bass has a jump (small bump) or twist.

I recently had a neck press straightened... This was a $60 gamble.

-----
Due to lack of shop time, I often send repairs out.

I'd walk into my preferred shop (with a $10 bill/tip). "Is the able to be arrow straight... How much to fix these "chewed frets"

Example: My girlfriend feel in love with a blue Ibanez acoustic. I wanted it to be "her guitar." She brought it into a shop with $10... The tech informed her that is needed about $300 in repairs (and that it was better to just buy a new one).

She returned it to the local selling store within an hour and continued shopping.
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Thanks. I love the look of the bass and want to keep it just for that. I will take a pic of the frets and the neck a little later today and maybe you'll have more info to give me your opinion. Personally I feel it's within the realm of "fixable for not too much $" and since I only have $350 into it, it's worth it for me to spend another hundred or so.
 
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MNAirHead said:
Before starting anything, is take it to a quality shop. Unsure what your frets are like.

I'm unsure what "chewed up" means

Fret Quote
Example, I have a rare guitar. There is no neck binding. To have frets removed pressed was $60... I then paid to have them leveled and dressed. I bought the custom boutique for $600 by the time it was fine I had another $600 into repairs (it's a solid $1000 guitar - nobody knows the luthier)


I've also bought a ton of USA peaveys that were ignored.. a portion had neck issues

Neck Inspection
A tenured luthier can quickly see if s bass has a jump (small bump) or twist.

I recently had a neck press straightened... This was a $60 gamble.

-----
Due to lack of shop time, I often send repairs out.

I'd walk into my preferred shop (with a $10 bill/tip). "Is the able to be arrow straight... How much to fix these "chewed frets"

Example: My girlfriend feel in love with a blue Ibanez acoustic. I wanted it to be "her guitar." She brought it into a shop with $10... The tech informed her that is needed about $300 in repairs (and that it was better to just buy a new one).

She returned it to the local selling store within an hour and continued shopping.
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Ok, here are some pics. I tried to get a pic of the neck bow, which seems fixable when I get the proper truss rod tool, which I just ordered (the groovetech).

Also some pics of the worst of the frets. Being a tech newbie I have no clue whether these need refretted or just levelled.
Thanks!
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@PVt40man - before you go cranking on the truss rod, be aware that the wrong technique can damage the neck.

Basically, the rod is designed to hold the neck in a certain position, but it is not designed to actually move the neck.

Proper procedure is:
  • Loosen strings
  • Bend the neck using your hands/rubber straps/block and clamps/flying monkeys/whatever
  • While holding the neck in that position, snug the truss rod nut up to where it's firm but not overly tight
  • Release, tune strings, check relief, repeat as necessary
 
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ctmullins said:
@PVt40man - before you go cranking on the truss rod, be aware that the wrong technique can damage the neck.

Basically, the rod is designed to hold the neck in a certain position, but it is not designed to actually move the neck.

Proper procedure is:
  • Loosen strings
  • Bend the neck using your hands/rubber straps/block and clamps/flying monkeys/whatever
  • While holding the neck in that position, snug the truss rod nut up to where it's firm but not overly tight
  • Release, tune strings, check relief, repeat as necessary
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Thanks! Is this true for all basses or just Peaveys?
 
#27,216
ctmullins said:
@PVt40man - before you go cranking on the truss rod, be aware that the wrong technique can damage the neck.

Basically, the rod is designed to hold the neck in a certain position, but it is not designed to actually move the neck.

Proper procedure is:
  • Loosen strings
  • Bend the neck using your hands/rubber straps/block and clamps/flying monkeys/whatever
  • While holding the neck in that position, snug the truss rod nut up to where it's firm but not overly tight
  • Release, tune strings, check relief, repeat as necessary
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This is a good procedure when you have that much movement to deal with. I like to give the neck a little chiropractic nudge for major relief adjustments.

The frets don't look too bad in the pics. As long as the notes don't buzz out, I would think just a little scotch bite/steel wool and metal polish would get them nice looking.
 
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bigtone23 said:
This is a good procedure when you have that much movement to deal with. I like to give the neck a little chiropractic nudge for major relief adjustments.

The frets don't look too bad in the pics. As long as the notes don't buzz out, I would think just a little scotch bite/steel wool and metal polish would get them nice looking.
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Thanks. I don't think I quite captured the frets in all their "glory" but I actually noticed nothing wrong with them playing the bass before I took the strings off so you're probably right that they are fine for a while longer.
 
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PVt40man said:
Thanks! Is this true for all basses or just Peaveys?
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Good practice for all basses. Mandatory for all basses that use a compression style truss rod (the old style), not strictly necessary for the newer double-action style rod, but still a good practice - doesn't hurt anything, and after the damage is done is not the time to decide to be prudent....
 
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