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U.S. Peavey Club

can you explain the difference besides value?

I would prefer front output
The SF's in the Foundation are less polite than Jazz pickups.
More bite, snarl, clank, aggression, more raw.
They tend to egg you on to dig in and make the strings rattle.
They are the opposite of the fretless soft fingering sound of smooth jazz.
I don't see the Foundation as a replacement for a Jazz bass, just a two pickup single coil sound that is different and great sounding.
I feel the same way about the Patriot, which I may like even better than the Foundy.
 
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Hey kodiak..I read elsewhere that you have 4 T-40 basses and I quote you "I've still got mine. Sunburst with blades, natural with toasters, natural with toasters converted to 5 string and natural with toasters and active EQ."
I would love to see some pics, especially the natural toaster bass (4) like the one I have. I would assume its a 78 or a 79 model like mine, although I am learning more about the T-40 since owning one. I have read all I can find so far on the T-40 including flateric's blog writeup with the input help he got from Todd and Hartley for his blog. I also have ordered the Peavey Guitars (Authorized American History) book. I know the included book pics are B/W (for some reason) but the info will be really interesting. All I have on any Peavey info over the years are my Monitor mags I collected way back in the 80's, and any info I glean here on TB lol I was really interested in hardware changes (blade pups and bat/paddle type switches especially etc) and different finishes besides the natural that Peavey went through in the production years of the T-40. I would love to see some close up pics of all your T-40's if possible D. Thanks for considering it if you have time. Im sure a bunch of guys here would be interested too. Maybe you could put the pics up on the T-40 thread as well if possible and just say your filling a request. It is a most interesting history of the iconic Peavey T-40 bass guitar and I would like to know all I can even if it means picking your brains and others here on TB loll. Giff.
 
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When I’m done “restoring” a trashed T-40, I will have a rare one! It will have a 1.5” nut width!!

The neck had student/teacher stickers all over it showing the fret number and note names, and the frets were flat, completely worn down. The neck and body also showed signs of being played (probably daily) for decades, by people way rougher than I will ever be to any instrument.

The neck had so much wear in the “money” area that after I sanded all the dinged finish off the back and edges, refretted, and tung oil finished it, I noticed the treble edge of the board wasn’t straight. It dipped inward between the 1st and 9th frets in a gradual arc, from wood being eaten away by years of sweaty dirty hands. The fix: reshape it toward the nut, narrowing it to 1.5”. I’ve got it marked for the reshaping, and I have the tools. Just need the time.
 
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Here you go my friend. An eejit armed with a mobile phone,I've never managed a decent photo of the sunburst so I'm afraid that's the best one :facepalm:
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Awwwww All those blonde headed little babies. Thank you very much. I'll put the pics in my T-40 folder. Much appreciated. We have the Queen's Birthday long weekend holiday Monday coming up which is one of the most dangerous times to be on the road driving here in Australia so i'm spending the entire extended weekend playing the T-40 and keeping off the roads.
 
Just a quick 2 questions also. Wouldn't the neck construction of the T-40 contribute heavily to the unique sound that the bass produces, besides other factors like Peavey's own wound pickups and heavy mass bridge, metal nut etc.
Q1. I gather that Peavey were the first manufacturer, and correct me if i'm wrong here, to produce a bi-laminated neck with the T-40? In other words they took a length of maple, sawed it longways into 2 pieces and reversed one side, inserted the stainless steel truss rod before gluing back together the two halves with the opposing grain along the neck length. That would make for a really solid stable neck with no extra fingerboard added and the finished maple surface was the actual playing surface. The only added boards of course were the rosewood fingerboards laid on top of the maple, which surely would give a different sound compared to the maple as well?
On a side-note I have owned my rosewood fingerboard Dyna Bass since 1991 and never realised that the neck may have been constructed that way too until I read about the T-40 method. I checked the back of the Dyna's neck and sure enough there is a fine seam line down the middle length of the neck, something over the years I have never noticed as it is that fine a join.
Q2. Are all Peavey model bass necks made the same way seeing as how the T-40 was so successful???
Now surely that style of making a stable bass guitar neck, besides the other contributing factors aforementioned, would add to the unique sound of the Peavey basses, especially the flagship T-40?
 
I would love more info on the T-40 as well. In the last six months or so, I've picked up two of them. A burst, and a white one. The white one must have a different body wood, cuz she's only medium heavy. The burst one is chiropractor heavy.
 

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Q2. Are all Peavey model bass necks made the same way seeing as how the T-40 was so successful???
Now surely that style of making a stable bass guitar neck, besides the other contributing factors aforementioned, would add to the unique sound of the Peavey basses, especially the flagship T-40?

All are made that way up until the 90's when they started to really take out costs. They then went to a single piece neck with board...truss rod grooved from top side. Roughly coincides with the slimmer body shape change.

My early Fury and Patriot both have the two piece neck. My later Fury and Foundation both have the single piece plus board. The single piece plus board neck is a slimmer flatter D shape while the two pieces were pretty much a C shape. Both had the 1.5 nuts. The T series basses were wider nuts as previously noted.
 
All are made that way up until the 90's when they started to really take out costs. They then went to a single piece neck with board...truss rod grooved from top side. Roughly coincides with the slimmer body shape change.

My early Fury and Patriot both have the two piece neck. My later Fury and Foundation both have the single piece plus board. The single piece plus board neck is a slimmer flatter D shape while the two pieces were pretty much a C shape. Both had the 1.5 nuts. The T series basses were wider nuts as previously noted.
Thanks for the extra info Runnerman. Much appreciated. It seems as far as Peavey innovative bass guitar manufacture goes there is much to appreciate as well.
 
Kudos to Peavey for trying something different with their neck design. But, I would NOT say it was better or that it greatly affected the sound of their instruments. I would say that it was an Achilles heal. Many of these necks have split along the seam, I’ve seen it myself. Yet, I’ve never seen the other famous maker style necks split..... ever. If a truss rod wasn’t directly behind this seam, putting pressure on the glue joint, it would be a great concept!
 
Personally I don't see the two piece neck as an Achilles heel for Peavey basses but that's my opinion. As always there will be occasional quality problems but glue joints are typically stronger than the wood itself if executed properly. My thoughts on splitting necks is that the basses may have been abused just as many Peavey's have been because of their perceived cheapness. People over adjusting the rod possibly. Also we have seen splitting when an improper adjustment tool is forced into the hole at the headstock.

The single piece neck is also accused of being whippy and having a tendency to warp because of the thinner cross section, ie: flatter profile and of course the narrow nut width. Fortunately the two that I own are very stable and probably the fastest and most comfortable necks I've seen.
 
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Achilles heel

My opinion (after owning like 400 of these) is that there were very very few design errors.

Folks forget that these were sold as inferior gigging or student basses - not collectables. During this time period tuners were expensive and rare... it was common for a kid to have tuned the G String up to a B and forget about it for decades.

If folks were to ask about the design problems.. it was mostly pre-shipment fine tuning and setup. Example... the Bridge Saddles on a RJ-IV take about an hour with jewelers file to get to crazy low action. A USA Millenium requires a shim, tilt and bridge raise for low action (many filed the nut)...

Periodically after 30 years some of the petrolium based materials failed... the lining on a contour case... the magnet adhesive on a fury... both are quick and cheap to fix for another 60 years

When a neck
bilamintes -- it's probably due to the hate and neglect more than manufacturing process.
 
I think the neck tilting feature was something they could have done without.
If anything would have contributed to a neck split, that pointy set screw being used as a fulcrum would be the culprit.
Multi-Lam necks are good and Peavey was ahead of their time with the two piece neck, Fender has just as many twisted necks as Peavey has cracked ones.
 

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