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There are a lot weird stuff in this universe. Maybe we just can’t explain everything in it. Black holes were once just a theory and turned out to be real. And science does’t really know how these things work.
 
There are a lot weird stuff in this universe. Maybe we just can’t explain everything in it. Black holes were once just a theory and turned out to be real. And science does’t really know how these things work.
It has only been six decades since man first entered space using chemical rockets. We have not even scraped the bottom of the barrel yet. It is hard to try to imagine where we will be in a 100 years, 1000 years, 10,000 years from now and so on.
 
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Kitty hawk to Yuri G. took less than 60 years. Another 10 to land a man on the moon and return

And then pretty much nothing. Yes, we've gotten better at getting things to low earth orbit and keeping them there. We haven't figured out a practical way to get a human to Mars. Hopefully that will happen in my lifetime, but there doesn't seem to be the sustained will to achieve manned interplanetary exploration.
 
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And then pretty much nothing. Yes, we've gotten better at getting things to low earth orbit and keeping them there. We haven't figured out a practical way to get a human to Mars. Hopefully that will happen in my lifetime, but there doesn't seem to be the sustained will to achieve manned interplanetary exploration.


There needs to be an incentive to invest the many trillions of dollars needed to develop manned interplanetary travel, and, realistically, there's no benefit to doing so.

For now, robots can do 90% of what humans can do in space, plus a great deal more.

The idea of permanent human colonies on Mars is entirely impractical and would be a reckless waste of resources that could otherwise be used to improve conditions on Earth for the billions of people who already live here.

Consider that every experiment we've ever attempted on Earth to replicate a self contained colony on Mars has ended in failure. The atmosphere gets out of balance, plants die, the micro-ecosystems fail. The human inhabitants bail out. And that's with a normal Earth gravity and absense of lethal radiation.

We can't even think about sending human colonists to Mars until we can perfect simulated Mars colonies on Earth, with a safety net.
 
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The only way or reason for manned exploration of the universe is 1. develop a propulsion system to travel vast distance in a reasonable amount of time 2. Have a pretty good reason to go and find a habitable planet for humans that has a breathable atmosphere and 3. resources to survive on. If we run into another life form out there than we'll have to cross that bridge if and when that happens, what they might be and if we can even relate to or them to us is only speculative at best, Star Trek and the like are just hollywood interpretations , we have no clue whats really out there till it presents itself
 
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Imagine a 100 year push forward in space exploration, we send off the most ambitious mission yet, only to have run into another life form that destroys spacecraft and we never know what happened...then send another and bam, missing....gonna take a long time to fight our way thru the star systems thats for sure
 
There are limits to what we know about the universe. And it's pretty much the standard model and general relativity. Then there's stuff like string theory that attempts to bring it all together. We live in a world of boundaries and limits. Like the speed of light, nothing moves faster than light. Black Holes, no one knows for sure what's in a Black Hole, and to find out you have to go in one. By the way the fighter pilots are talking, these things seem to have no limits. And to my reasoning, beyond the limits of what we know, and we may never understand what they are. I keep thinking about Carl Sagan's flatland idea. "his only conclusion is that he's gone bonkers" :)

 
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I have never seen one, but listening to a total of over four hours between Bob Lazar & Commander Fravor has pushed me from “space is infinitely huge. There’s probably several other civilisations on other planets, and probably at least one is capable of traveling here quickly & safely either with their own trained personnel or well made automatons.” to “There’s definitely an unknown intelligent civilisation present on Earth with tech way beyond what any other Earthen First World nation has on tap and they’ve been gently easing us into being aware of their presence since we blew up Hiroshima & Nagasaki. I don’t know if they’re from here or some other star system, but it doesn’t matter: They’re here and they’re probably going to wait for a few more generations before they make formal ‘televised’ open communication.”

I really really want to see how the gravity manipulating device works.
 
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From Col. Corso's book "The day after Roswell":


""President Truman understood as General Twining described to him the strangeness of the spacecraft that seemed to have no engines, no fuel, nor any apparent methods of propulsion, yet out flew our fastest fighters; the odd childlike creatures who were inside and how one of them was killed by a gunshot; the way you could see daylight
through the inside of the craft even though the sun had not yet risen; the swatches of metallic fabric that
they couldn’t burn or melt; thin beams of light that you couldn’t see until they hit an object and then burned
right through it, and on and on; more questions than answers. It would take years to find these answers,
Twining had said, and it was beyond the immediate capacity of our military to do anything about it. This will
take a lot of man power, the general said, and most of the work will have to be done in secret.""

"" The craft was able to displace gravity through the propagation of magnetic wave, controlled by shifting the magnetic poles around the craft so as to control, or vector, not a propulsion system but the repulsion force of like charges.""

Great book.
 
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