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UFO: Unknown Fender Object

Plot twist: so I was having a really hard time intonation this thing. I stood it next to my other jazz bass and noticed it's shorter . . . did some measurements, lo and behold the distance between the frets is shorter as well. The overall scale length measures 34 but clearly this neck is made for something else, something shorter perhaps.

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Is the aftermarket bridge installed in the right place?
 
Plot twist: so I was having a really hard time intonation this thing. I stood it next to my other jazz bass and noticed it's shorter . . . did some measurements, lo and behold the distance between the frets is shorter as well. The overall scale length measures 34 but clearly this neck is made for something else, something shorter perhaps.

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Yeah its a 21 "fret" short or medium scale neck.
 
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Now, I'm not saying you're wrong, but if was measuring for scale and got 33.5" and intonation issues I'd be awful suspicious of it being a 33" or 34". Did you measure nut to 12th or nut to saddles?

EDIT: I was wrong again, it's 33.75" scale. I measured from nut edge to the 12th fret: 16.875". I confirmed this using the stewmac calculator for each fret position and then fret to fret measurements. I'm so glad it's at least correct, if a bit odd.

When I first measured it I was measuring nut to saddle on the E string, which is about 34"
 
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If I had to guess, I'd say it was a very well put together parts bass. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong at all with that. Some of the nicest Fender shaped objects are parts basses. You lucked out with it, well done.

Edited to add: Looking at it closely, it's predrilled for the "mystery screw" between the neck pickup and the neck, but not for the pickup covers. That's kind of odd. What's the body thickness?
 
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It's a Clint Eastwood Signature Fretless Jazz, the bass with no name.

Certainly looks like it was built by someone who knew what they were doing, a beautiful solder job with Bartolini's and 22-fret neck. I give it extra points for NOT having a brand name on it, if it plays well and sounds good, who cares ?

I love 'brown basses'. If it was me, I'd fill in the PG holes, change out to black hardware, and work the wood to an oil-finish dull look, maybe go back to one of those black crinkle finish metal pickguards.
I agree with everything you said, but you spelled "chrome hardware" and "black Pearloid pickguard" wrong.
 
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Didn't the router hump disappear around 1964/65? I've always believed it was a very early feature, like the brass ground strip from the bridge pickup rout to under the bridge.

'65 P with a bump
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'66
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'67
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'68 with hump... or bump? or ramp?
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'69
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1970. The shape seems to be getting small and subtle enough to be subjective territory.

Can we call this a micro-hump?
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'71
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'72
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'73
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'74
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'65 P with a bump
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'66
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'67
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'68 with hump... or bump? or ramp?
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'69
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1970. The shape seems to be getting small and subtle enough to be subjective territory.

Can we call this a micro-hump?
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'71
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'73
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'74
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Certainly by 1970 it was vestigial, nothing like the pronounced bump on a '60 for example. Your picture of a '66 shows it off well - a long, distinctly rounded but low-ish hump. Of course, lack of a bump is no indicator of anything - they were often sanded out during refins. Dating a Fender can be a minefield, because they never threw anything anyway, so you might very easily find a "thin" pre-1969 Jazz body on an early '70s J that **should** have the "thick" body, but they had some thin bodies left and used them up until they ran out.

Of course there are the bigger changes, like the '70s revised pickup spacing, CBS era neck binding, three screw vs five screw bridge, or the aforementioned body thickness, which can help you narrow a J down to a fairly accurate date range bearing in mind the "parts bin overlap effect". But you never really know. If it plays nice, it IS nice. That's what really matters.

Of course, the only person who really knows is... J TORRES.