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Ultra flat cabs

#41
Iristone said:
I think the SVT-210AV and SVT-212AV have got their followings for a reason, no? They sound reasonably close to an SVT-810AV, but are lighter and more portable.
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This ^

The power and efficiency (weight too) of 2x10 and 2x12 cabs on the market is PRETTY formidable. If its 30lbs + a 30lbs stand, you'll get far better performance with a vert 2x10 or 2x12 at similar weight. I'm all for innovation, but this seems like a two-seater electric car that can only go 20 miles before needing an 8-hour recharge. Making a lot of sacrifices with very little benefits (for bass amplification purposes).
 
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Redbrangus said:
Yeah, I understood that. Are there published specs for the bass cab? Is that rig pictured actually a stack of two cabs?
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Unknown, seems documentation on this new bass cab is thin, (lol) the site(s) overall are convoluted and could benefit from a decent web designer, and a competent copy writer/ marketer.
 
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Dubious for sure. If the drivers are something atypical like planars that people are mentioning here then I have no knowledge to poke at\\with. But my intuition strongly suggests that this is hyperbole if the drivers are 'conventional.' The volume of the enclosure is strongly tied to the performance of the driver. Such a small volume box would make the tradeoff between bass frequencies and max SPL very pronounced. SVT 8x10s aren't the most bassy cabinets but they were very loud.
 
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I have no comment on these, but I remember seeing and hearing high-end Electrostatic speakers in a Hi-Fi shop that my dad's cousin worked in more than 30 years ago. They were really cool to a 14 year old kid, but the cost was more than I could ever imagine spending as a 14 year old kid.
 
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agedhorse said:
Full of marketing-speak, absolutely zero numbers or specifications.
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That's why it's called "brane". Like the string theory, it promises literally everything but cannot prove it. I especially love that they don't even publish an output power!

As for the ET PRO product, maybe I'll someday dip my toe into the Model Twenty Two. Worst case scenario it can become a guitar amp, especially for my girlfriend's acoustic. The bass cab will probably benefit from being made into 2x10 or 1x15 sizes - which will make them truly more portable.
 
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Redbrangus said:
Not electrostatic panels. At least from what can be discerned from the manufacturer's marketing blurbs. They refer to something called "magnetic planar technology" but I didn't find that especially enlightening. :smug:
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I asked the Perplexity.ai bot what this technology is in context of a bass guitar speaker. Answer:

Magnetic planar technology, also known as planar magnetic technology, is an innovative approach to speaker design that offers several advantages for bass guitar amplification. Here's an overview of how it works and its benefits for bass players:

## How Planar Magnetic Speakers Work

Planar magnetic speakers use a flat diaphragm suspended between two rows of magnets, rather than the traditional cone-shaped driver found in conventional speakers[2][3]. The diaphragm, typically made of a thin film material like Mylar or Kapton, has a conductive trace pattern on it. When an electrical signal is applied, it interacts with the magnetic field, causing the diaphragm to move and produce sound[3].

## Advantages for Bass Players

1. **Fast and Accurate Low-End Response**: Planar magnetic speakers offer a very fast and accurate low-end response, which is crucial for bass guitar[2]. This allows for precise reproduction of bass notes and transients.

2. **Extended Low Frequency Response**: These speakers can provide extended low frequency response beyond what's typically achievable with other speaker technologies[2]. This means deeper, more articulate bass.

3. **Improved Harmonic Reproduction**: The technology allows for more accurate reproduction of higher order harmonics, resulting in more precise pitch and timbre[2]. This is particularly important for bass, as it helps maintain clarity and definition even in low frequencies.

4. **Low Distortion**: Planar magnetic drivers generally produce lower distortion compared to traditional cone drivers, resulting in cleaner, more accurate bass reproduction[3].

5. **Wide Frequency Response**: These speakers can handle a broader range of frequencies accurately, which is beneficial for bass guitars that often have extended ranges[3].

6. **Durability**: With fewer moving parts, planar magnetic drivers can potentially be more durable than traditional cone drivers[3]. However, it's worth noting that they can also be fragile and easily damaged if not handled properly.

## Considerations

While planar magnetic technology offers several advantages, there are some considerations for bass players:

1. **Power Requirements**: These speakers often require more powerful amplifiers to drive them effectively[3].

2. **Size and Weight**: Planar magnetic speakers can be larger and heavier than traditional speakers, which may affect portability[3].

3. **Cost**: They are generally more expensive to manufacture, which can result in higher prices for the end consumer[3].

Despite these considerations, many bass players find that the superior sound quality and accuracy of planar magnetic speakers outweigh the potential drawbacks. The technology's ability to deliver fast, accurate, and detailed bass reproduction makes it an attractive option for bassists seeking the highest quality sound[1][2].

Citations:
[1] Audio Science Review (ASR) Forum
[2] Why Our Planar Magnetic Technology is Better for Bass Players - FinalGuitar
[3] Guide to Planar Magnetic and Ribbon Loudspeakers | In Sheeps Clothing
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[5] Planar the II | Avantone Pro
[6] PLANAR MAGNETICS - Wisdom Audio
[7] Magnepan DWM - Planar Magnetic Bass Panel
[8] Audeze Planar Magnetic Technology - End game audio
 
#59
Redbrangus said:
Not electrostatic panels. At least from what can be discerned from the manufacturer's marketing blurbs. They refer to something called "magnetic planar technology" but I didn't find that especially enlightening. :smug:
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Planar magnetic speakers are a little like electrostatic speakers, except instead of a moving membrane sandwiched between two charged stators that drive it with an audio signal, they have a membrane in a large magnetic field, and the membrane itself driven by current rather than the grids around it being driven by voltage. One advantage over electrostats is that they don't need a step-up transformer and an independent power source providing hundreds or thousands of volts to charge the grids. One disadvantage is the need for a uniform magnetic field over the surfaces of the membrane -- the bigger the speaker, the more magnets you need. And a strong, rigid framework to keep the magnets in place.

Planar magnetic headphones can sound really good -- IMO only 'stats have greater clarity. They can get unwieldy and heavy because of the magnets and frames though. I have less experience with planar magnetic speakers, but Magnepan has been making them for half a century, the technology is pretty well dialed in at this point, advantages and disadvantages pretty thoroughly understood by now.
 
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