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Unexpected rarity in your collection

I have a couple of rare basses (limited edition G&L L1K and MM BFR 'ray), but I when I bought them used the runs were already over and I knew they were oddballs, so the rarity wasn't unexpected. That said, the marketing of "limited editions" has become seemingly unlimited these days, LOL. From Scotch to clothing and musical paraphernalia, it's an easy way for companies to cash in on the cachet of exclusivity.
 
My 1974 Ric 4001 is odd in that it has red side dots, which I have been told is rare. 🤷‍♂️

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The number of original owners of pre-EB StingRays are fewer and fewer each year, I'm informed. Mine is dated February-March, 1979, and has been with me since I bought it a month or three later. There is no way I could ever have known what I bought when I bought it. I believed it to be something special. Just how special took decades to realize.

Because it is unarguably collectable means others know it is collectable. It's not a bass I want to leave in the green room at Bob's Country Bunker. OTOH is is a bass that should be played.


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In 2019 Dinwall brought their take on the Thunderbird, the Dbird to NAMM and carried off the “best bass” prize.

They were made both in the custom shop in Canada and as a production model in China.

A very few of the production Dbirds made it into the wild before Gibson’s lawyers got involved.

The Dbird got a design revision and came back as the Droc.

Here’s a rare Dbird in the blue/purple color shift finish.
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This is my first import Dingwall and it far exceeded expectations. Perfect balance (unlike a T bird). A wide range of tones. Light weight. Passive.

Multi scale from 36.25 to 34”.
 
I have a couple of rare basses (limited edition G&L L1K and MM BFR 'ray), but I when I bought them used the runs were already over and I knew they were oddballs, so the rarity wasn't unexpected. That said, the marketing of "limited editions" has become seemingly unlimited these days, LOL. From Scotch to clothing and musical paraphernalia, it's an easy way for companies to cash in on the cachet of exclusivity.
When I first read your comment, I thought you had said Scotch tape, I was like “what the-?” 😂🤣
 
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Vigier confirmed to me that my Roger Glover signature is likely the final bass they'll ever make of that model, now that they are shutting shop. Has any bass in your collection been an unexpected rarity that you didn't see coming?

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I bought a 1965 Jazz in 1966. Used it through high school, some college, toured using it for 3 years with a nightclub group playing 5-nights a week 50-weeks a year, and after coming off the road to raise a family. I continued to play weekends with it until 1976, when shortly after moving to Oregon, the house was burglarized and they stole all my touring gear. That was my '65 Jazz, my piggy back Standel MCIIb/SAM30b amp, my Shure 565sd mic and my Shure 585d mic. Funny thing looking back at it was that they only took one of my two Atlas mic stands. They had that heavy weight cast iron bass and I guess one was heavy enough for them.

Wasn't until 1985 that I was able to buy another Jazz Bass and it was a 1982 Jazz in Olympic White with a white-bound all-maple neck and 70's era pickup spacing of 4" center to center. The price people were getting for my '65 in 1976 but in 1985 it had gone up to $40,000. If I still had it I wouldn't have sold it though. I loved that bass. Price for a '65 Jazz in good shape has gone up and down numerous times, but they are hard to find. One of the unusual things about my '65 Jazz was that they used mother of pearl for the dot inlays instead of the white dots they had been using up until then. Below is a picture of me playing in that touring group in either late 1971 or early 1972. That's my Standel amp between the guitarist and the female vocalist.:
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I bought my '82 Jazz in 1985 because when I picked it off the wall of the music shop where I was working part-time (had gone back to college) and played it, it just felt like coming home. Every Jazz I'd tried since 1976 had a fat neck...like an obese Jazz bass neck. This one felt exactly like my '65. It has what I believe is called a "60's Slim C-shape neck with a 7.25" radius. I didn't have an amp when I bought it but finally got one in 1997 and started gigging again.

I didn't realize I had anything unusual until a fellow from Denmark who was often on the Eden Forum asked about it. I always thought it was a late '77 or early '78 Jazz from the serial number but that's not the case. A fellow here on TB who had worked for Fender back in the 80's said those "S8" serial numbers, which were supposed to mean 1978, were used well into the 1980's. Also said that the white bound necks were only standard in 1966 (when I first saw them) and in 1982. He suggested I get the date codes from my controls to get a better idea of when it was made. Unlike my '65, which did have a date stamp on the heel of the neck, my '82 doesn't have that. It has Jose Serna's name, "J. Serna", stamped on the neck but he built necks for Fender for 50-years...so that wasn't much help. Did open up the controls for my bass and took pictures. It appears to be the original wiring and the tone pot had the numbers we were looking for. From the numbers on the pot, it's a CTS control that was made the 4th week of 1982 and since Fender didn't keep a large stock of them on hand, he said the bass would be within a max of about 2 months of that date. Those controls were a constant turn over and the supplier was right down the street.

I'm not sure it has a collector value but I did check with the custom shop and it would be about $4,000 to build another one just like it. The neck would be the biggest reason for that. They haven't made that neck for a long time and didn't offer it through the Mod shop because of the slimness of it and the 7.25" radius. Fender went to a 9.5" radius later in the 80's. And that neck is what made me buy it in the first place. I didn't realize how good it sounded until I got an amp again in 1997. It's a bit brighter than my '65 was and has a ton more sustain. It also growls better and more easily when I dig into the strings above the bridge pickup than my '65 did. I loved my '65 and would really like to have it back, but even if I did, my 1982 Jazz would remain my primary bass. She's a beauty; she plays like my '65 and both sounds and records better than my '65.

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I bought a 1965 Jazz in 1966. Used it through high school, some college, toured using it for 3 years with a nightclub group playing 5-nights a week 50-weeks a year, and after coming off the road to raise a family. I continued to play weekends with it until 1976, when shortly after moving to Oregon, the house was burglarized and they stole all my touring gear. That was my '65 Jazz, my piggy back Standel MCIIb/SAM30b amp, my Shure 565sd mic and my Shure 585d mic. Funny thing looking back at it was that they only took one of my two Atlas mic stands. They had that heavy weight cast iron bass and I guess one was heavy enough for them.

Wasn't until 1985 that I was able to buy another Jazz Bass and it was a 1982 Jazz in Olympic White with a white-bound all-maple neck and 70's era pickup spacing of 4" center to center. The price people were getting for my '65 in 1976 but in 1985 it had gone up to $40,000. If I still had it I wouldn't have sold it though. I loved that bass. Price for a '65 Jazz in good shape has gone up and down numerous times, but they are hard to find. One of the unusual things about my '65 Jazz was that they used mother of pearl for the dot inlays instead of the white dots they had been using up until then. Below is a picture of me playing in that touring group in either late 1971 or early 1972. That's my Standel amp between the guitarist and the female vocalist.:
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I bought my '82 Jazz in 1985 because when I picked it off the wall of the music shop where I was working part-time (had gone back to college) and played it, it just felt like coming home. Every Jazz I'd tried since 1976 had a fat neck...like an obese Jazz bass neck. This one felt exactly like my '65. It has what I believe is called a "60's Slim C-shape neck with a 7.25" radius. I didn't have an amp when I bought it but finally got one in 1997 and started gigging again.

I didn't realize I had anything unusual until a fellow from Denmark who was often on the Eden Forum asked about it. I always thought it was a late '77 or early '78 Jazz from the serial number but that's not the case. A fellow here on TB who had worked for Fender back in the 80's said those "S8" serial numbers, which were supposed to mean 1978, were used well into the 1980's. Also said that the white bound necks were only standard in 1966 (when I first saw them) and in 1982. He suggested I get the date codes from my controls to get a better idea of when it was made. Unlike my '65, which did have a date stamp on the heel of the neck, my '82 doesn't have that. It has Jose Serna's name, "J. Serna", stamped on the neck but he built necks for Fender for 50-years...so that wasn't much help. Did open up the controls for my bass and took pictures. It appears to be the original wiring and the tone pot had the numbers we were looking for. From the numbers on the pot, it's a CTS control that was made the 4th week of 1982 and since Fender didn't keep a large stock of them on hand, he said the bass would be within a max of about 2 months of that date. Those controls were a constant turn over and the supplier was right down the street.

I'm not sure it has a collector value but I did check with the custom shop and it would be about $4,000 to build another one just like it. The neck would be the biggest reason for that. They haven't made that neck for a long time and didn't offer it through the Mod shop because of the slimness of it and the 7.25" radius. Fender went to a 9.5" radius later in the 80's. And that neck is what made me buy it in the first place. I didn't realize how good it sounded until I got an amp again in 1997. It's a bit brighter than my '65 was and has a ton more sustain. It also growls better and more easily when I dig into the strings above the bridge pickup than my '65 did. I loved my '65 and would really like to have it back, but even if I did, my 1982 Jazz would remain my primary bass. She's a beauty; she plays like my '65 and both sounds and records better than my '65.

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I think it's even more rare that you had Rob Reiner playing guitar for you!! Ladies and gentlemen, Meathead!!

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The number of original owners of pre-EB StingRays are fewer and fewer each year, I'm informed. Mine is dated February-March, 1979, and has been with me since I bought it a month or three later. There is no way I could ever have known what I bought when I bought it. I believed it to be something special. Just how special took decades to realize.

Because it is unarguably collectable means others know it is collectable. It's not a bass I want to leave in the green room at Bob's Country Bunker. OTOH is is a bass that should be played.


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I'm a original owner, besides being a 79 Stingray what else is unusual ?
 
I think it's even more rare that you had Rob Reiner playing guitar for you!! Ladies and gentlemen, Meathead!!

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:laugh::laugh:I forgot how much Steve looks like Rob Reiner. Steve and I played together in a high school band called the "St.James Infirmary" which is the title of a song about an insane asylum. He's the one who gave me a call back in 1971 and asked, "Hey Dan, how would you like to come to Nevada to play your bass and get paid for it. Obviously I said yes. That started me touring with a nightclub group called the Young Century's for the next 3- years. Had a GREAT time. Unfortunately Steve passed away from cancer back in 2011. He was a great friend, plus I could watch what he was playing and follow along if I needed to. He also did have a nickname that he acquired after moving to Nashville. They called him"Bulldog"...no idea why.
 
My Russian built Padalkas. I expected these to be available to anyone who ordered at the time but he (Simon Padalka) fled Russia in the wake of the 2022 invasion of Ukraine, spent about a year in limbo in Georgia (the country) and is now in Canada as a master builder at Dingwall. He's starting to make a few of his own instruments again but his basses are scarce (and excellent).

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A couple pretty obscure vintage basses, though I knew they were rare, so not unexpected. I only know of another 3 or 4 of these, Italian Meazzi Juptiter Bass circa 1965:

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Australian Maton Ibis Bass also from 1965. One of 199 and only know of one other in red. 35" scale!

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