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Victor Wooten is second teir skill wise now

#42
Seriously I didn’t hear anything new in that guys playing. that being said I don’t consider music to be a competition and have never singled anyone out as being the best. I will on the other hand say that I think vic is ONE of the best I have herd and this guy, in those clips is not. That’s my opinion anyways.
 
#45
The thing that makes Victor Wooten so special is not what he can play or how many different things he can do on the bass.

It is the message of what he teaches, Victor always talks about what you are really trying to bring across the audience. The Music. At the end of the day it is all about Music and you. It took me almost 10 years to finally, six months ago realize that all the gear and all of the skill in the world doesn't amount to anything if you have no meaning behind it.

That is what makes Wooten a world class player. At the end of the day it all boils down to music and our love of music.

The bass is just the extension of which we choose to express our selfs through music.
 
#46
MaxMaps said:
The thing that makes Victor Wooten so special is not what he can play or how many different things he can do on the bass.

It is the message of what he teaches, Victor always talks about what you are really trying to bring across the audience. The Music. At the end of the day it is all about Music and you. It took me almost 10 years to finally, six months ago realize that all the gear and all of the skill in the world doesn't amount to anything if you have no meaning behind it.

That is what makes Wooten a world class player. At the end of the day it all boils down to music and our love of music.

The bass is just the extension of which we choose to express our selfs through music.
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Most people I know would argue that it is about the music before anything else..
...should really go without saying.
V.Wooten seems just one person that likes talking about it a lot,which I suppose is not a bad thing as he reaches all those poeple who I am sure benefit from it.

Listening to him play says quite a lot though in itself IMO.
 
#47
cnltb said:
Most people I know would argue that it is about the music before anything else..
...should really go without saying.
V.Wooten seems just one person that likes talking about it a lot,which I suppose is not a bad thing as he reaches all those poeple who I am sure benefit from it.

Listening to him play says quite a lot though in itself IMO.
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I can see where people dish out the hate on him, Victor seems to come across as smug which I can't really see at all.

It may go with out saying, but many many people don't get what is the core goal is. I fully admit I was one of those people. I am glad that Victor does it, I am also glad that other players like Jeff Berlin for example bring the same point across.
 
#48
MaxMaps said:
I can see where people dish out the hate on him, Victor seems to come across as smug which I can't really see at all.

It may go with out saying, but many many people don't get what is the core goal is. I fully admit I was one of those people. I am glad that Victor does it, I am also glad that other players like Jeff Berlin for example bring the same point across.
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I do hope I didn't come across as being a "hater". :)
If I did, it wasn't intentional.
 
#51
Mr wiggl3s said:
Ah. I'm mistaken. I thought it was universally accepted that Victor wasn't anything special, other then a very good technical player.

So, clearly, that's where i had hoped this would discussion would gravitate towards.
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Not sure why you thought it was universally accepted that Victor isn't anything special. I know there are some threads where people like to bash him, just as happens to anyone who is considered to be of the day's elite. However, I think very few would, in an hoest fashion, refute the man's skills and accomplishments. I know some people don't find him as "musical" as other players, but what "musical" is is highly subjective.

That said, regarding the guy in the video's "technicality", I wouldn't personally rate him as top shelf. He's certainly good and has obviously put a lot of time and effort into developing his skill, but there are tons of guys who can do what he does, and many who can do it tighter. Now, I also don't want to take anything away from him, and I'm sure he could melt my strings in a blaze of fingers, but to put him up against top shelf technicians at this point in his playing career is probably not appropriate.
 
#52
rarisgod said:
He's fast and technically skilled, but he lacks the groove Vic has.
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You know, I've been to the NAMM show several times, and you hear guys like this all over the place. Lots of "licks, "chops" and whatever else you want to call it. Then I go listen to Vic and all I usually end up hearing is wonderful music that happens to be played on the bass. IME/IMO
 
#55
Vic's a great player, although a lot of his stuff isn't really my own personal choice to listen to. Just for context...

But the guy in the OP's links is pretty much some sort of unfunny joke, imo. I'd hesitate to call him a musician at all. And I'm sad that anybody would be impressed by such rubbish. I bet the guy's really good at "Guitar Hero", though. ;)

I guess this thread must be just a trolling effort? Spelling errors in thread titles are always a clue.
 
#57
I'm always interested in checking out musicians that I haven't heard of before.

I'd say the "bassist skill tier" system is open for debate, though.

I'm sure if we all put bassists in tiers, our opinions would vary.
 
#58
Don't get me wrong, i appreciated what Victor have been done for the bass world. But seriously, in some of the fast stuffs that he play, he was sloopy as hell.
About Masaki, he's good bassit, he done his things well, that's all.
 
#59
My guitar player could pick up his bass and play what that guy did with very little effort. And I would still think it just looked like a technical exercise with bad tone.

Kudos to the dude for whatever he's doing, but I'm not into it, and wouldn't compare him to people who've helped shape the way bass is played today.
 
#60
LaklandBass said:
Im going to guess that this dude is actually a guitarist that has either converted to bass or just plays one in this band. I could easily picture him shredding on an Ibanez RG. It just seems odd to me that somebody could have decent chops like that without having any concept of actually playing a bass.
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I'm betting that this is 100% correct. It's exactly how I treated the bass when I first got mine.

"Pocket? Groove? What the heck is that?" :)

That said, that blue bass with the numbered fretboard in the first video is awesome.
 

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