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Victor Wooten is second teir skill wise now

#62
In this "flavor of the week" world - the guy might get by. What *I* saw on the clips was musical masturbation, and maybe not what the guy is really capable of playing, at all. It's not my way to critique a guy coming up, and I wish him well. That said...let's see where he's at on the world stage some years down the road. Players that are the complete package (which Victor would be considered among) will always be waiting to offer a hand of friendship and an "atta boy" to another player that is not only technically proficient, but also truly musical in their approach and expression.
 
#63
Got to chill on this.
Music is not a competitive sport, unless you make it one.
You can measure how far someone hits a baseball.
Even that fails next to the the actual quality of the game the team and players play.
Everyone has music inside to express.
Some folks put their every waking hour into expressing this music.
Others go to work, school or play video games.:)
To each his own.
You can never be as good as Stanley Clarke.
Why?
Stanley can only improve Stanley.
Victor, Victor etc.
Give it a big rest.
At all day concerts folks cheer for the next act to bring them that wonderful place that only music can.
They don't compare Wilson Pickett with Sting.
They just want us to bring it.
Bring it hard and real and quit with the comparisons.
 
#64
Cont'd.

I've known and spent time with many musicians you would consider very famous and on top of their game.
They are in just as much wonder as you are when another musician pulls some space shite out of the air. They say, "Wow how did he/she do that?" or "I never thought to put that there like that, Wow that worked."
Humility.
 
#65
Mr. Masaki might probably be better if someone taught him the secret of using one finger per fret. :hiding:

If anything, I see/hear a dude who obviously likes Billy Sheehan a lot and tries to emulate him style-wise while not being close to approaching him, sorry. I mean, just look at [Invalid or Expired Link Removed].
 
#66
O.k., here is my $.02 worth...in order to MAKE music it has to come from your soul. Anyone can practice to perfection and PLAY music, but there will always be something lacking. Victor is an amazing bassist...but no one can skat like Oteil, no one can play fretless like Jaco, and no one can slap like Marcus....why? Because it comes from their soul. There are many technical players out there today who can fly up and down the neck hitting every note just right, but the same can be acheived with loops. The historic bassist, which Victor is one of, find a way of combining perfect technical skills with imperfect soul to create music that defies time. So, can Victor be "knocked off" as the best?...no. His place is solidified in bass history along with many others.
 
#70
That guy is kinda famous in Asian countries (Korea, Japan) for his bass method. His method book is extremely challenging that's why he is becoming these days famous because he's the one who can completely play his own method book!

I haven't purchased his book yet but it looks like he's demonstrating one of the songs and phrases in his method book.

I don't think that book is published in North America yet, the translated name of the book is "Training of the Hell" and it has a picture of the devil at the cover! I will get this book pretty soon!
 
#74
Mr wiggl3s said:
Ah. I'm mistaken. I thought it was universally accepted that Victor wasn't anything special, other then a very good technical player.

So, clearly, that's where i had hoped this would discussion would gravitate towards.
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What universe do you play bass in to consider it universally accepted that Victor isn't anything special?

Being lucky enough to see Vic play live and chat with him, he is a top notch, humble guy and is extremely special. Anyone read his book? Totally made me rethink how I play and experience music.

Sorry sir, you are either:
1. a troll
2. or an idiot
 
#75
Whatever tier you choose to put Victor on, he is still one of the best bassists to ever play the instrument. I really don't see this a a competition at all. There are a lot of bassists that may sound like and even play like Victor, Stanley, Jaco, Larry, Marcus, Billy, etc., and that's cool. To quote an old Electrovoice ad featuring Stanley Clarke that I saw in Bass Player years ago, "Often Imitated-Never Duplicated".

By the way, I don't think Victor is losing much sleep about being replaced.



A Groove is a Terrible Thing to Waste! :cool:
 
#79
Mr wiggl3s said:
Ah. I'm mistaken. I thought it was universally accepted that Victor wasn't anything special, other then a very good technical player.

So, clearly, that's where i had hoped this would discussion would gravitate towards.
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Ummm.....somebody done told you wrong!! Furthermore, I'm thinking this was more of a 'bait' thread than a common sense one.
 

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