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Another reason I like odd basses. Last year I took my pre lawsuit Electra p-bass with a motet mite neck and active EMG’s to play at the Chet Atkins festival in Nashville. I played thru their fender amp patched thru the system. When all 12 players had finished their songs we headed back to our booths.I get a kick out of some of those weirdass 60s era Japanese and Italian basses. Many of them have their own sound and can sometimes even be made somewhat comfortable to play - if they have a still working truss rod - assuming there is one and it ever worked to begin with.
Can’t say I love them. Love is a pretty strong emotion to lavish on something like a bass IMO. I don’t even love my main player. But I do like it a lot. Same goes for some of the oddball basses I’ve spent time with.
I had a few old cheap Tiesco and Motsumoku basses that went missing in a move once that I kinda miss. None of them were stellar tone machines. But they played well (or well enough) and had some interesting sonic character.
Only old cheap basses I’ve still got are a Tiesco that’s in pieces (came that way in a box) I think somebody disassembled for storage or something…and this nice little old Kay I plan on restoring:
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Most recent cheap bass I’ve bought is a Baltimore “brand” bass. I originally got it thinking I’d route a swimming pool in it so I could use it as a test bed for pickups. Cost a whole whopping $48 new off the clearance rack at GC. But when I got it home and played it a bit I realized it’s actually a very nice bass. And its totally gonzo Dr. Seuss inspired pickguard was oddly attractive and started to grow on me. So I did a setup, cleaned up the electronics a bit, and dropped a better pup in it, and it now turns heads whenever I haul it out at a jam.
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It’s not vintage. But it has that same “bicycle factory” and “accordion shop” vibe written all over it.
“Once you’ve played the best it’s time to try the rest!”
I was at guitar center in Chattanooga a few weeks ago. I had brought my Phoenix in to show an employee. When another employee asked if I would be interested in a bass he has similar to mine. It was that exact Phoenix in a triangle Ibanez hard case for $200While at the top of the price range I'd consider cheap ($200-300), I had two very fun cheap vintage basses - Eko Barracuda and Electra Phoenix.
Don't have pics, but they were like these
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I was at guitar center in Chattanooga a few weeks ago. I had brought my Phoenix in to show an employee. When another employee asked if I would be interested in a bass he has similar to mine. It was that exact Phoenix in a triangle Ibanez hard case for $200
that EKO is wild! Like them both!!While at the top of the price range I'd consider cheap ($200-300), I had two very fun cheap vintage basses - Eko Barracuda and Electra Phoenix.
Don't have pics, but they were like these
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I never knew there was a change in ownership -- the development of the brand seems pretty contiguous...Ibanez came out of the same factory in japan that mine came from. They gained in popularity and the brand was bought and developed into what it is today.
Does it still exist? If so where? I’m interested I have that same neck ( no hardware) to put on.I bought this guy about a month back and really loved the sound of it bought it knowingly with bad tone pot and the bridge Bottomed out, no big deal. Before getting into the electronics I decided to get the set up right. Turns out there was no hope, the truss rod probably seized in that thing 40 years ago. A shame really, I got it for next to nothing, luckily I was able to get my money back and the store I got it from put her down. I have a soft spot for basses like that as I have have an old Stella acoustic guitar with a steel reinforced neck that belonged to my mom, don’t know how it lived through 30 years in a case and the me beating it up as a child but through all those years I slapped a new set of strings on it and it played perfect. Just goes to show that the quality of those old cheapies can vary drastically. If it’s good, it is!
I was doing some research on the hondo brand and that was in the multi page article I found. Even Harmony was made in New Jersey. They started loosing money and wound up being bought by this company. The way it read was Ibanez became their top of the line, the rest were renamed or faded away. That Japanese company later turned into Samick. I’m not an authority, that’s what I read. Then last year while playing a gig In Nashville I met this guy who started giving me a history lesson on the Electra p-bass I was playing and all the others that came from that company. I also found out that Kustom and Kasino amps were the same amps. The face colors and name were different. Kustom was made in California and Kasino using the same electronics was made in Kansas. The little purple power light ( lense) is the give away. I have done some more digging, but, I haven’t found much more info. Please if I’m wrong I am open to correction.I never knew there was a change in ownership -- the development of the brand seems pretty contiguous...
I have no idea what ever happened to it, it hasn’t been in the store and I’m pretty sure they didn’t turn around and sell it to anyone. Maybe it’s hanging on their “certified technician’s” wall as he looks for a new job! It wouldn’t be the first time instruments have made their way out on the floor with something seriously wrong that it isn’t disclosed and has the set up tag hung on it!Does it still exist? If so where? I’m interested I have that same neck ( no hardware) to put on.
I know I shouldn’t ask, but, the next time your in there could you ask about it? I know it’s a long shot. Or give me the number to the store and I can ask. Not that it’s worth anything, I just hate to see them tossed. My wife and I are on the board of directors of an boys and girls homes. We have kids from all over the country and all walks of life come in and out. If one of the shows an interest in playing bass I find something I can set up for them and find a small practice amp and help them get started. When they either go back home or get adopted or go to college they take it with them.I have no idea what ever happened to it, it hasn’t been in the store and I’m pretty sure they didn’t turn around and sell it to anyone. Maybe it’s hanging on their “certified technician’s” wall as he looks for a new job! It wouldn’t be the first time instruments have made their way out on the floor with something seriously wrong that it isn’t disclosed and has the set up tag hung on it!
Some misinformation there. The Hoshino Gakki company has been the same throughout -- changes have been branding changes. Contracting manufacture out to particular *factories* has changed -- the Mid seventies through early eighties lines that were made in the Matsumoku factory, for instance, were still Ibanez guitars. When manufacture switched to the Fuji-Gen factory, the same was true. I have axes from both factories, and all are excellent.I was doing some research on the hondo brand and that was in the multi page article I found. Even Harmony was made in New Jersey. They started loosing money and wound up being bought by this company. The way it read was Ibanez became their top of the line, the rest were renamed or faded away. That Japanese company later turned into Samick. I’m not an authority, that’s what I read. Then last year while playing a gig In Nashville I met this guy who started giving me a history lesson on the Electra p-bass I was playing and all the others that came from that company. I also found out that Kustom and Kasino amps were the same amps. The face colors and name were different. Kustom was made in California and Kasino using the same electronics was made in Kansas. The little purple power light ( lense) is the give away. I have done some more digging, but, I haven’t found much more info. Please if I’m wrong I am open to correction.
So you were spoiled by a new inexpensive student bass, it's just the old ones that you don't like. Back in the 70's, P basses were inexpensive, quite a few beaters hung on pawn shop walls.