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#21
JimK said:
A lot here don't realize it, either. I have seen it many times. :)
Live, it is all Ray Manzarek's Fender piano bass.
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JimK said:
A lot here don't realize it, either. I have seen it many times. :)
Live, it is all Ray Manzarek's Fender piano bass.
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Harvey Brooks played live with them at times later on in their career, I found that in Robby Krieger's book which was very good by the way, he is a gentleman. Just my opinion but I think at least one of the reasons they had no bass player live is because it was pretty obvious to most that Morrison was such a bad alcoholic even early on that the band unfortunately was running on borrowed time. I know Krieger and especially Densmore really like Brooks, the whole band liked Lubahn and asked him into the band along with Rothchild. Supposedly they also asked Jerry Scheff to join a few months before Morrison died. Lonnie Mac even played bass on some of their studio stuff. Leroy Vinegar played upright, many others, interesting read:


The Secret History of the Doors' Bass Players
 
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bobyoung53 said:
Harvey Brooks played live with them at times later on in their career, I found that in Robby Krieger's book which was very good by the way, he is a gentleman. Just my opinion but I think at least one of the reasons they had no bass player live is because it was pretty obvious to most that Morrison was such a bad alcoholic even early on that the band unfortunately was running on borrowed time. I know Krieger and especially Densmore really like Brooks, the whole band liked Lubahn and asked him into the band along with Rothchild. Supposedly they also asked Jerry Scheff to join a few months before Morrison died. Lonnie Mac even played bass on some of their studio stuff. Leroy Vinegar played upright, many others, interesting read:


The Secret History of the Doors' Bass Players
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Read the above link...cool stuff. Although-
For bass, Manzarek played a Fender piano bass...not a Fender Rhodes.
The "cocktail music" sound from L.A. Woman was "Riders On The Storm", not "Love Her Madly". Right?

For years, I assumed Ray Neopolitan was a pseudonym for someone.
I did check out Lubahn's Clear Light band (Amazon). Psychedelic, but meh.
 
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JimK said:
Read the above link...cool stuff. Although-
For bass, Manzarek played a Fender piano bass...not a Fender Rhodes.
The "cocktail music" sound from L.A. Woman was "Riders On The Storm", not "Love Her Madly". Right?

For years, I assumed Ray Neopolitan was a pseudonym for someone.
I did check out Lubahn's Clear Light band (Amazon). Psychedelic, but meh.
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I could never understand why a lot of the critics hated the Doors, I guess they were cool to hate, I loved just about everything they did, although I liked their early stuff better than the later stuff. I missed that about the Fender Rhodes, I was more interested in whole played bass guitar. I'll have to check out Clear Light Band too.
 
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My older, cooler cousins had me as a fan of The Doors when I was 12(?).
Through it all...'60s Pop, Hard Rock, Acid Rock, R&B/Soul, Funk, Jazz Nazi daze, Fusion, '80s MTV Pop, Latin Jazz, Free Jazz, Modern Classical, etc...I never disliked them.
 
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JimK said:
My older, cooler cousins had me as a fan of The Doors when I was 12(?).
Through it all...'60s Pop, Hard Rock, Acid Rock, R&B/Soul, Funk, Jazz Nazi daze, Fusion, '80s MTV Pop, Latin Jazz, Free Jazz, Modern Classical, etc...I never disliked them.
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I just listened to Clear Light on YouTube, it was the original album plus some outtakes or something or other, the outtakes were better than the album, it actually got pretty good but I think Lubahn was nuts to turn them down though. Lubahn was a great player.
 
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JimK said:
Read the above link...cool stuff. Although-
For bass, Manzarek played a Fender piano bass...not a Fender Rhodes.
The "cocktail music" sound from L.A. Woman was "Riders On The Storm", not "Love Her Madly". Right?

For years, I assumed Ray Neopolitan was a pseudonym for someone.
I did check out Lubahn's Clear Light band (Amazon). Psychedelic, but meh.
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Ray is or was a real bassist. I think he was mainly a jazz player early on.

Ray Neapolitan Songs, Albums, Reviews, Bio & More | AllMusic
 
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Hot Rats said:
Maybe someone knows but I "heard" that the bass players on the albums were doing Rays right hand piano lines note for note in the studio. He already had them written and they just played them on bass. Yes, No?
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Only on the first album, "The Doors" which is why Larry Knechtel wasn't credited. On the rest of the albums they were free to play what they wanted. The electric bass still sounded great on the first album.

The Secret History of the Doors' Bass Players
 
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#38
Watchootognbout said:
I would expect a guitar magazine to have sour grapes about Jaco.
He achieved stardom on his own terms in a group with no guitar.
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I seriously doubt that the average UG person even knows that Weather Report existed, let alone ever heard them. Plus the band was well established and iconic before Jaco ever came along. Or else, if they were just aware of his name, they would generally know of him as a solo artist, or just "some fusion guy", or "that fretless guy".
And, as I pointed out earlier, there's a bit of dislike for his 'sound'(and that of those trying to emulate him)right here over the years.
 
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