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Warwick corvette
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That's not how it works. You entered a contract by bidding. Now you are intending on breaking that contract because you didn't bother to find out what it was you bid on prior. Pretty scummy behavior imo...I was the only bidder, if it was't me, no winner then. I know its not fair not to pay, but don't think its a big sinIf I won after like 30 bids, then it would be shame not to pay
I’m viewing on my iPad and it’s easy to overlook. I took a closer look only because I noticed the neck is maple.
Don't do that. A future seller might try to pass it off as a German Warwick and you don't want that. If the Rockbass logo shames you cover it with electrical tape or something less permanent. Or don't buy it.
I think wizard65's point is that in both cases the product is being represented as something it isn't.
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I've had a couple of Rockbasses and they are not bad instruments at all, not even the early ones. I've had several German-made Corvettes and currently have a very nice '08 fretless 5. But you pay a lot more for a Warwick that isn't a Rockbass.
I don't think you have much of a case for not paying. It's declared as made in China, and although the RockBass insignia is blacked out it's easy enough to see it's there, plus the control layout tells those who know that it's a Rockbass.
Really this is buyer remorse, @Luka. You bid before checking it out completely and now wish you hadn't. I guess it's down to your conscience if you pay... if it's any consolation, it's probably a nice bass...
I don't think you have much of a case for not paying. It's declared as made in China, and although the RockBass insignia is blacked out it's easy enough to see it's there, plus the control layout tells those who know that it's a Rockbass.
Really this is buyer remorse, @Luka. You bid before checking it out completely and now wish you hadn't. I guess it's down to your conscience if you pay... if it's any consolation, it's probably a nice bass...
But it isn't. It never was, with the exception of the marker on the 'rockbass' graphic. Even the original Ad said made in China
Here is the thing...
The Rockbass line of basses are still Warwick basses. There is no company called 'Rockbass'. They are simply an affordable Warwick bass made in Asia.
It isn't like Squire is to Fender as Squire is a wholly owned subsidiary of Fender.
It isn't like Gretsch is to Fender as Gretsch is a wholly owned subsidiary of Fender.
It isn't like Guild is to Fender as Guild is a wholly owned subsidiary of Fender.
It isn't like Epiphone is to Gibson as Epiphone is a wholly subsidiary of Gibson.
Based on how you're looking at the Rockbass line of basses it would be as if Fender's made in Mexico would be a separate company. They're not. They're made by Fender in a Fender plant in Mexico.
The Rockbass line of basses, although made in Asia, are still Warwick basses. Period.
There was no real misrepresentation here. The Ad said Made in China. China is not Germany.
Duh
The Rockbass line of basses are still Warwick basses. There is no company called 'Rockbass'. They are simply an affordable Warwick bass made in Asia.
It isn't like Squire is to Fender as Squire is a wholly owned subsidiary of Fender.
It isn't like Gretsch is to Fender as Gretsch is a wholly owned subsidiary of Fender.
It isn't like Guild is to Fender as Guild is a wholly owned subsidiary of Fender.
It isn't like Epiphone is to Gibson as Epiphone is a wholly subsidiary of Gibson.
Based on how you're looking at the Rockbass line of basses it would be as if Fender's made in Mexico would be a separate company. They're not. They're made by Fender in a Fender plant in Mexico.
The Rockbass line of basses, although made in Asia, are still Warwick basses. Period.
There was no real misrepresentation here. The Ad said Made in China. China is not Germany.
Duh
I understand where you are coming from. It is the budget friendly version like an s2 is a budget friendly PRS or the metro version of a Sadowsky. Keep in mind that a custom shop Corvette $$ is 3000€ minimum and a GPS Corvette $$ is 1700€ minimum. The equivalent of a German made Corvette proline in today's listings will run 1400€. Thus I called it budget friendly but should have said "more budget friendly." I am sorry to have incensed you.
Pretty sure it's eBay suicide to not pay for a bid you won, unless the seller was going beyond his way to make you think the bass was indeed a German made Warwick.
The bass looks nice, and nowadays some players use so many pedals and effects that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Take this opportunity to learn 3 things:
1. Always research before you click buy (I've seen posts here of people asking questions minutes before actually buying)
2. Don't expect "high" end basses to be around the 500 dollar mar on eBay. If you want a "high" level bass, then save up and buy such bass
3. Never pay for anything with debt unless you can cover for it, that's how bad things happen
The bass looks nice, and nowadays some players use so many pedals and effects that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Take this opportunity to learn 3 things:
1. Always research before you click buy (I've seen posts here of people asking questions minutes before actually buying)
2. Don't expect "high" end basses to be around the 500 dollar mar on eBay. If you want a "high" level bass, then save up and buy such bass
3. Never pay for anything with debt unless you can cover for it, that's how bad things happen
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I think the point with the later Corvette Proline is that the only difference between it and the German Corvette Standard was the country of manufacture - it is the same quality of build as a German one. The Rockbass is a budget line, but still with Warwick quality control.
I can't be responsible for what other people do. What a ridiculous notion.
Pay for it because you said that you would.
It's that simple.
Otherwise, *you* are the non trustworthy "scammer".
Live honorably and deal with your own mistakes.
As others have pointed out, you got a good bass at a good price. You may love it. If not, you can resell it.
Not to me however, because of your lack of character.
It's that simple.
Otherwise, *you* are the non trustworthy "scammer".
Live honorably and deal with your own mistakes.
As others have pointed out, you got a good bass at a good price. You may love it. If not, you can resell it.
Not to me however, because of your lack of character.
I’m pretty sure this is not a German made Warwick. It’s also more than likely passive. Neither of which is a deal killer, but puts it on a par with Mexican Fenders, and other instruments made in Asia., I played one a my local GC a while ago, and not a bad bass,
but you aren’t going to mistake the quality of it compared to one made in Germany. One other point, it’s going to be lighter than my babinga boat anchor Corvette STD.
Given the rockbass bit is obviously blacked out, I'm not sure I'd trust the vendor. I'm sure you'll get the bass and all...I just wouldn't want to give someone like that my money.
It's possible they did it on their own so when playing live people were under the impression it was genuine, but that should have been CLEARLY stated on the listing.
It's possible they did it on their own so when playing live people were under the impression it was genuine, but that should have been CLEARLY stated on the listing.
The Warwick Custom Shop of 2018 is not the Warwick Custom Shop of 2002, when I placed my order. Warwick had yet to create the RockBass line, and was a much smaller production company. The USD was about 1.00 to the EUR versus 1.17-1.23 currently.
In 2002, Warwick took custom orders as additional options to standard production basses. In recent years, they have an entirely separate price list for the Custom Shop Masterbuilt instruments that starts at $4999.99 USD for a Corvette $$ and goes up from there, and *then* you can add the prices of the options you want to that base price. There is no way to specify custom options on the current Pro Series Teambuilt instruments. The closest thing to my Corvette Proline in the 2018 price list would be a Corvette Standard bubinga active-active, which lists for $2699.99 USD, or nearly double what the same model cost in 2002 ($1399 USD).
At the time I placed my order, its list price including all options was $2244.00 USD. Even only accounting for the 20% change in the exchange rate, that would be $2692.80, today, but of course, that isn't even considering inflation. For that, we have to tack on another 40% (per US BLS statistics, 2002-2018), so it's really $3769.92 USD in 2018 dollars, or €3,225.11 EUR.
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You didn't have time to research, but you had time to ask for more photos and get a response from the seller. The ad clearly states made in China. From what I see and five minutes with Google and this website, I could have determined what this was. Buy the bass. If you don't then be the guy nobody deals with. Especially if you buy here at TB. I fully research my buyers, which takes another five minutes on this site.
You could do what I did and make your own truss rod cover. Looks nice to me, and it doesn't say "rockbass"
