I believe there are trim pots inside so you can set each effect at an individual level in respect of each other, then the main control will adjust both of those up or down.
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Way huge Pork and Pickle
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I believe there are trim pots inside so you can set each effect at an individual level in respect of each other, then the main control will adjust both of those up or down.
Ok. Well first off, the pedal for some reason doesn't come with the manual. So you'll have to look around and see if it's online again. I didn't save it when the link was up before they took it down, but I had a basic idea of what the pedal does.
So some background first on why I bought this: I'm just a bedroom hack. I don't play out and don't really have any desire to (I'm a drummer first). But I'm still particularI wanted something that would give me, for a simple way of describing it, the option of a Geddy Lee like Overdrive, but also allow me to dial in some Robert Sledge like Fuzz (like a Big Muff Pi, which I have never actually played, I just know he uses one). I have a VT Bass DI that I play through for my clean tone, for a little bit of warmth and grit when I want it, but I didn't want to constantly futz around with the settings in order to get different tones. I basically wanted to leave it on a flip-top like setting and then have another pedal dish out the dirt.
So, after about 10 minutes of just fiddling with the knobs, I feel like the pedal does exactly what I want it to do. With minimal fuss, or in this case, literally just by finding a good neutral setting in regards to where everything is set and just flipping the switch from OD to Fuzz, I get a pretty good approximation of those two types of dirt that I was looking for. Time will tell if I decide to do some more tweaking with each one, but I'm incredibly happy with how it is so far for getting me those tones I was after.
So again without the manual and just going off of what I remember it saying when it was posted online, plus my own interpretation of what they're doing, the controls are thus:
Volume: Simple enough to understand
Drive: Controls the level of the drive, whether in OD or Fuzz mode
Clean Blend: My understanding is that at the root of it, the pedal has built into it, just gritty warmth of an overdriven tube amp. With the drive all the way down, and just changing this knob, you can already get a little bit of breakup in the tone. Having the knob all the way up fattens up the sound. Having it all the way down makes it a little dirtier but to me a little thin because again my understanding of it is, it's blending in that built in warm that's already in the pedal. Back off the knob and you're just getting the dirt from the pedal.
Tone: Changes the tone of the overdrive. All the way down and it's bassier and fatter. All the way to the right and it's more trebly and angrier. So basically like a passive tone, but it changes the characteristic of the drive.
Clean Tone: This affects the tone of that built in clean sound that the Clean Blend controls. Again, all the way down and it's more bassy, all the way up and it's more trebly. It does seem of course to affect the tone of the drive a little as well.
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Ok on to the part everyone's waiting for. The lousy sound samples I made! lol Ignore my butchering of Limelight and Uncle Walter
Because I specifically wanted a Geddy like OD tone and a Robert Sledge like Fuzz, I made two separate samples, each demonstrating those individual dirt types I was going for.
As far as the pedal settings are concerned, like I was saying, I put everything on what I considered a good "base" setting, and for each sample, literally all I did on the pedal was flip the switch from OD to Fuzz. That's it. Though I will say on the bass, I did change the pickup settings slightly.
For the OD setting: I had the bridge pickup all the way up, the neck pickup all the way down, and the tone all the way up.
For the Fuzz setting: I had the neck pickup all the way up and the bridge pickup at about 75%. The tone was all the way up.
That's it. Nice and simple. So again, all I did between samples, aside from changing the pickup settings, is flip the switch from OD to Fuzz. I think that just doing this makes then a versatile pedal just on its own. It really is OD and Fuzz in one. It's not stackable of course, and no foot switch to switch from one to the other, but for my needs that didn't matter.
So here's the picture of the pedal so you can see where I set the knobs for the "base" setting. Like I said, all I did between clips was flip the switch.
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Hi Fourstringdrums dude. I see on your photo that the clean blend is all the way up. Any chance of samples with this set at about 2oclock?
Ok there is no real clean tone unless you leave it turned all the way down, As you increase the clean tone you increase the baked in pedal tone that is actually an amazing fat punchy almost tube amp like tone the reason it is clean tone and clean blend is no OD or Dist . Then you can go from sweet fat to deep almost mud by increasing the clean tone. These two can not be stacked as far as I can see but I am no expert. Would be nice if they put the manual back up so we could see what the internal trimmers are for. This is a fatter sounding pedal all the way around compared to the HOT/WAX that can be stacked and has actual clean blend and is a bit more touch sensitive. if I had tom choose between the two right now the Pork & Pickle would get my vote just for the Fat sounding clean and the warmish dirt sounds.
Really, shouldn't it be called the "Pork OR Pickle"?
Using the word 'and' assumes I can mix the two dirt flavors.
Using the word 'and' assumes I can mix the two dirt flavors.
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would that not have increased the cost? The extra foot switch probably not so much but the Stacking thing would have been nice but probably much more costly. It would have made it a great pedal instead of just a good one . But the Fatness added to the sound by increasing the clean blend is worth the cost of admission for me.
The pork and pickle to me is a great idea. It’s two pedals in one and saves space. An idea like the camel toe, while cool does not save space. I can understand why people would want the option of stacking but for my purposes a bigger pedal would be a terrible idea
If something like the Darkglass Alpha-Omega is any indication, they could probably fit both the Pork Loin and Russian Pickle circuits (in full) within the same enclosure, but that would absolutely drive up the price.
Though, if three-way mod to stack the two circuits is not possible, maybe replacing the two-way switch with a blend pot (like the Mod control on the AO) would be? That could yield some interesting results, especially with the clean blend incorporated.
Though, if three-way mod to stack the two circuits is not possible, maybe replacing the two-way switch with a blend pot (like the Mod control on the AO) would be? That could yield some interesting results, especially with the clean blend incorporated.
Maybe this pedal will yield a double pedal in the future. We had individual green rhinos and red llamas before the camel toe same with the overrated special and the doubleland special. A double pork and pickle where you could switch between overdrive A or B, fuzz A or B, overdrive or fuzz. Or stack them overdrive into overdrive, fuzz into fuzz, overdrive into fuzz, or fuzz into overdrive. Maybe if there is enough demand then they will produce something like that.
@Thunderpaws wanted to hear the samples I did above, but with the clean blend @ 2:00. Seems like to me, it opens the tone up. It's a bit more compressed and honky sounding with it all the way up.
Here they are. Same grooves for the OD and Fuzz that I did before, just with the clean blend at the new position.
Here they are. Same grooves for the OD and Fuzz that I did before, just with the clean blend at the new position.
Way Huge pedals are all through-hole components as far as I'm aware. Darkglass stuff is SMD so you can pack a lot more into a small package. But I agree it would be cool to be able to stack the two circuits.
Superb. I’ll have a listen when I get home. Thanks very much.
It probably would have gone up like a hundred bucks but IMO it would have made way more sense. I guess we will see how this sells for them.
I bet this is a great pedal for recording.
Demo finally just went live! Dunlop prob won't post it until after NAMM:
Thanks for posting this! Sounds fantastic... can't wait to plug mine in! Also, I really need that Galaga shirt!!! Love it!!!
Great demo. Love the choice of intro riffs. So, if this is just a Pork Loin with a Russian Pickle, I should be able to cop that tone with my PL, right? Hmmmm....
EDIT: It would appear that it was set on Fuzz for for the demo. Guess I can’t do it, then. Ah well. Great tone, but I think I have that covered with other dirt too. Still, intriguing. Will wait for reviews from the wild.
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