There have been indigenous populations that have done exactly this for 100s of years. Tattoos have just become more socially acceptable
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Well, maybe because new music suxx
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As for the "boomer" hate, let me put it this way... Boomer bought music, went to concerts, supported artists.
Today the only artists making money are the top 40 ones which apparently the gen z's and millennials like myself don't like or listen to. The rest of the supposedly "great amazing" artists out there? They're hurting for a dollar. So maybe before the condescension to people who've lived a little and know what they're talking about, who spent their lives actually supporting artists they love, the new generations should start thinking about supporting the artists they do love. You might have a high horse to ride on then.
Today the only artists making money are the top 40 ones which apparently the gen z's and millennials like myself don't like or listen to. The rest of the supposedly "great amazing" artists out there? They're hurting for a dollar. So maybe before the condescension to people who've lived a little and know what they're talking about, who spent their lives actually supporting artists they love, the new generations should start thinking about supporting the artists they do love. You might have a high horse to ride on then.
The avocado toast thing just seems to be a common "insult" directed at younger people...often to dismiss the astronomically higher cost of living today's generation faces and instead insinuate that young people just blow their money on BS. I was also in the Navy and I also got tattoos, none of which I regret. If they fade they fade, I can either not care or get them touched up. All I am saying is that the vast majority of tattoo criticism comes from people who do not have tattoos. It is also used, by some people, as a way of suggesting someone is part of the lower class or even criminals if they have tattoos. Perhaps if you have swastikas on tattooed on your neck, sure...but aside from that, some people are just judgmental for the fun of it.Obsession with avocado toast?Didn't know that was a thing.
An old truck driver I used to work with had a number of tatoos. Good ol' boy from Oklahoma. We were talking one time and he said, "Yeah, I got 'em when I was in the Navy. I wished I hadn't of done that they fade and spread out, and there they are ... ah, whatever ... " So that's kind of how I think of tatoos. But I don't care all that much about someone else's tats. Life's too short.
Is it being "thin skinned" to tell someone their condescending comment was condescending?Being thin skinned is a fantastic way to not have fun on the internet.
Relax and shake your booty to some Dua Lipa while you still remember she exists
Lots of ppl on this thread suffering from myopia. Your heyday wasn't what you think it was. There is a TON of crappy music that fell by the wayside in the 60's, 70's and 80's. Tin pan alley has always been there, and what is "popular" has always been a crapshoot. I loved punk rock in the 80's and ignored most popular music. Just because what I think is iconic music existed in a subculture in the 80's doesn't mean the 80's was the best music every (although, ok, there was a lot of good popular music in the 80's too, a lot of crap as well). Now isn't better than then, nor is it worse. It's different in many ways, worse in some, better in others. But we as observers aren't really the ones who should be making sweeping statements about it. Some of us who are a bit older just come off like idiots that way.
"There's no good music these days!"
"Have you looked beyond what you hear in Starbucks and on commercials?"
"Well, no..."
"Did they play the music you love from the 70's in coffee shops and on commercials in the 70's?"
"Well, no..."
STFU with this.
"There's no good music these days!"
"Have you looked beyond what you hear in Starbucks and on commercials?"
"Well, no..."
"Did they play the music you love from the 70's in coffee shops and on commercials in the 70's?"
"Well, no..."
STFU with this.
Let's derail further into a discussion on tabi boots! Most of my Texan friends struggle to comprehend the absolute awesomeness of my ankle height tabis.
What type of music are we talking about? I love all fusion, jazz, blues, funk, and r & b from many years ago to now.
The genres I don't care for are pop, rock, metal, rap/hiphop and country.
Pop, tired of the I IV iii V chords yet? I am. Production is killer though
Rock and metal, quantized to death.
Rap/hiphop sampled to death and what is up with the crazy hi hats. I don't have the attention span to listen to the same 8 bar loop with the occasional drop for 5 minutes
Country too quantized and too rock/pop sounding. The production is good but can anybody tell the difference between the kick or any other instruments from a thousand artists. It's like the same 10 musicians recorded in the same studio for every country song out there.
Just my opinion and it's all in jest.
The genres I don't care for are pop, rock, metal, rap/hiphop and country.
Pop, tired of the I IV iii V chords yet? I am. Production is killer though
Rock and metal, quantized to death.
Rap/hiphop sampled to death and what is up with the crazy hi hats. I don't have the attention span to listen to the same 8 bar loop with the occasional drop for 5 minutes
Country too quantized and too rock/pop sounding. The production is good but can anybody tell the difference between the kick or any other instruments from a thousand artists. It's like the same 10 musicians recorded in the same studio for every country song out there.
Just my opinion and it's all in jest.
I think there's some truth in that, I don't have an ear for electronic productions ... I usually want to hear more ooomph than I find in those, more of the human element. Yeah, the old music industry model ist kaput, and there are no gatekeepers ... which is both good and bad. Good, because there are no gatekeepers. Less good in the sense that there's not the same focus that there used to be for public consumption of new music. For example, when the Beatles played Ed Sullivan, historic numbers of people were tuned in all across the country. I literally can't count the number of major musicians who cite that single event as the initial inspiration for their musical pursuits. Me too. That kind of platform just doesn't exist today, one reason a Beatles type phenomenon seems unlikely to happen again. But it is what it is,there's still good stuff out there. I encounter much less stuff that lights me up now ... but then, I'm probably not the target audience, and I don't have access to some of it anyway (another difference nowadays).
You mean like Motown, wrecking crew and others?
I have a slight problem with this. To my knowledge there were always alot of artists trying to make a living even in the 60s, 70s... The only difference back then was that they were being paid directly. But nowadays you can write a song, record it, put it on any platform imaginable (without having to pay for anything) and just advertise it EVERYWHERE. I doubt that it is now harder for actually good artists to make money than it was back then.
The market is just way more saturated and I would even argue that many of the older folks are not willing to go look for new stuff even if there's new stuff out there that is in the same style and the same spirit as some of the older stuff.
What is dying however are the traditional record companies. And those that are smart enough branch out into the digital world. But nobody should shed a tear for those companies because they have always been ripping artists off...
Lmfao!!
Being thin skinned is a fantastic way to not have fun on the internet.
Relax and shake your booty to some Dua Lipa while you still remember she exists
no matter your age or your "generation," just because you don't like something doesn't 'cancel' the fact that it may be hipper than you!
contemporary artists are adding 'new stuff' all the time, but if you aren't sampling it enough to know any better than your preconceptions = it's not a good look for folks who call themselves "musicians!"
you don't have to like everything you hear, but not to support the creative process --- well, that's a damn shame!
contemporary artists are adding 'new stuff' all the time, but if you aren't sampling it enough to know any better than your preconceptions = it's not a good look for folks who call themselves "musicians!"
you don't have to like everything you hear, but not to support the creative process --- well, that's a damn shame!
Why does everyone forget about us Gen X'rs...its bad enough that our parents forgot about us.
You guarantee this based on what metrics? I'm not denying that Van Halen have an important place in music history but I just checked on YouTube and Jump has 150 million views while the song Bad Guy from Billie Eilish has over a billion. Spotify: Billie Eilish has almost 50 millions monthly listeners, compared to 9.6 (Van Halen). TikTok (the most relevant platform for young audience today) Billie Eilish has 41.2 million followers and I'm not sure Van Halen even have a TikTok account, at least I couldn't find that would look like it's relevant. The kids don't listen radio and the people who go to Van Halen concerts are mostly not young either so I'm not sure if I consider these two relevant when it comes to inspiring kids.Seems to you wrong. As for Van Halen, pretty sure that since it's still on the radio multiple times a day everyday in 2022, 50+ years later, I have confidence it'll still be an icon and reference that is talked about and listened to 30, 40, 50 and likely many more decades after that, but you're free to believe otherwise of course
By the way, Van Halen was still filling stadiums in 2015. I guarantee you there are more kids today being inspired by them than Billie Eilish.
Now this next one is purely anecdotal but I teach in a music school. We encourage kids to bring the music that they want to learn and that they like to hear and Van Halen is not something they bring. The interest in rock music in general is not that great compared to pop and rap but the rock bands that kids at our school seemed to like are Green Day, Foo Fighters, RHCP and even Nirvana.
Just to be clear, I think that your statement that in 30 years VH are still going to be recognised for what they achieved is perfectly reasonable.
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I think too, the amount of music that gets released every second to our devices at the volumes it does, gives no one a chance to explore it or enjoy it.
Remember when you had to wait for your favorite artist to release a new track. You had to hear it on the radio, remember those
Or comb the record stores, remember those for the latest cuts.It was a process that took time. Time to descover, time to listen, time to enjoy. And because of the time involved, people were invested in the art of listen to music. It was a ritual like enjoying a good meal. Now music is like McDonald's, a lot have been served but the memory of it passes after the last bite.
There's a lot of good music out there, you just have to wade through a lot of it to find what you like.
Of course, IMHO...
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