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Well this is refreshingly freaking fantastic....

I kinda wish the made a 2nd version of that video where the camera didn't cut away from Ryan. This video is already a good demonstration of some of the unique techniques he uses in his playing to achieve his sound. If the camera stayed on him the whole time, it would be even better.

Not to take away from the other guys, who are also very skilled players...
 
I can dig it.
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I am digging Ryan Martinie's post-Mudvayne band, "Soften the Glare". Dig the fretless work...puns intended. ;)



Very impressive. A couple of questions.

1. Is the bass track a mix of fretted and fretless or all fretless? All of the fretless instruments I have played sounded like garbage with percussive techniques like slap and hammer ons. Some of the percussive parts have some obvious fretless work as you can hear the mwaw in the glisses; some parts sound like fretted.

2. One of the fast sections sounds like he is using a percussive technique or maybe even pick, but in the video it looks like he is using finger style. Take a look at 3:29. Is this just a matter of doing fast two finger pull offs with the plucking hand or is he slamming the stringers down similar to single thumb technique? IME the thumb tends to bounce naturally so the strings ring out, but the fingers do not. Perhaps he is pushing down through the strings. I have been working to integrate 2 and 3 finger pull offs with double thumb, but no why I could sustain that tempo for an extended time.
 
Very impressive. A couple of questions.

1. Is the bass track a mix of fretted and fretless or all fretless? All of the fretless instruments I have played sounded like garbage with percussive techniques like slap and hammer ons. Some of the percussive parts have some obvious fretless work as you can hear the mwaw in the glisses; some parts sound like fretted.

2. One of the fast sections sounds like he is using a percussive technique or maybe even pick, but in the video it looks like he is using finger style. Take a look at 3:29. Is this just a matter of doing fast two finger pull offs with the plucking hand or is he slamming the stringers down similar to single thumb technique? IME the thumb tends to bounce naturally so the strings ring out, but the fingers do not. Perhaps he is pushing down through the strings. I have been working to integrate 2 and 3 finger pull offs with double thumb, but no why I could sustain that tempo for an extended time.

Ryan has a bizarre and very unique style. There aren't any overdubs. That clicky, pick-sounding technique is a typewriter-like way to hit the strings. He also uses pretty odd tunings. You can look this up, as it's all over the web.
 
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I kinda wish the made a 2nd version of that video where the camera didn't cut away from Ryan. This video is already a good demonstration of some of the unique techniques he uses in his playing to achieve his sound. If the camera stayed on him the whole time, it would be even better.

Not to take away from the other guys, who are also very skilled players...

Here ya go:

 
Very impressive. A couple of questions.

1. Is the bass track a mix of fretted and fretless or all fretless? All of the fretless instruments I have played sounded like garbage with percussive techniques like slap and hammer ons. Some of the percussive parts have some obvious fretless work as you can hear the mwaw in the glisses; some parts sound like fretted.

2. One of the fast sections sounds like he is using a percussive technique or maybe even pick, but in the video it looks like he is using finger style. Take a look at 3:29. Is this just a matter of doing fast two finger pull offs with the plucking hand or is he slamming the stringers down similar to single thumb technique? IME the thumb tends to bounce naturally so the strings ring out, but the fingers do not. Perhaps he is pushing down through the strings. I have been working to integrate 2 and 3 finger pull offs with double thumb, but no why I could sustain that tempo for an extended time.

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Thanks. The videos give insight into the unique way he gets some of the sounds. IMHO, the instrument and setup is a key to getting some of the sounds. I have played a few basses (including a Thumb) that sounded great using two handed tapping up and down the neck. I believe such an instrument would be beneficial to using the technique you describe as "type-writer." Unfortunately, none of my basses are ideal for this.
 
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I kinda wish the made a 2nd version of that video where the camera didn't cut away from Ryan. This video is already a good demonstration of some of the unique techniques he uses in his playing to achieve his sound. If the camera stayed on him the whole time, it would be even better.

He's a really unique and technically superb player, but man that video looks like someone shot it on their phone.
Bad exposure, wobbily, just not good at all.
 
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Everytime I see a video like this I keep reminding myself I really need to put considerably more practice time into fretless than I currently do.

You’d think someone who started on upright would not have to remind himself about things like that. :wacky::cautious: :p :laugh:

As someone who also plays both, I hear you. I'm pretty sure that while we're sleeping, the notes slide around on those naked fingerboards and we have to find them all again in the morning.
 
As someone who also plays both, I hear you. I'm pretty sure that while we're sleeping, the notes slide around on those naked fingerboards and we have to find them all again in the morning.

Yes indeed. It’s like the Red Queen said to Alice in Through the Looking Glass. You have to run as fast as you can to remain in the same place. To actually get somewhere you have to run much faster than that. :laugh::thumbsup:

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