Were you dead before you were born (or conceived)?

[UncleFluffy]

I was only right once today, and it was when I admitted I was wrong.
damn.

Maybe you'll be right three times tomorrow to make up for it.

 

[vin*tone]

No.

"You" (as an individual thinking being with it's own identity) did not exist and therefore cannot be considered dead.

 

[Munjibunga]

No.

"You" (as an individual thinking being with it's own identity) did not exist and therefore cannot be considered dead.

How about if there's reincarnation and you had occupied a different earthly body, now dead? Then would you have been dead before you were born? This assumes that we maintain the same "spiritual identity" through time.

 

[vin*tone]

That would mean you are currently dead version of that guy.

... and back then you were a dead version of a guy before that.

So you're actually always dead.

 

[Marlat]

Food for thought (from a song):

"Life is not the opposite of death, death is the opposite of birth."

 

[Munjibunga]

Food for thought (from a song):

"Life is not the opposite of death, death is the opposite of birth."

If it's from a song, it must be true.

 

[Marlat]

If it's from a song, it must be true.

I apply the same logic to anything I read on talkbass.

 

[mongo2]

This assumes that we maintain the same "spiritual identity" through time.

What's that they say about making assumptions?

 

[Relic]

My official answer - I really dont know and none of you really do either.

We all have opinions of course, some very very compelling and some likely correct but again, in the end it comes down to the fact that we really just dont know. Because of that, it just becomes an endless loop of opinion-tossing.

 

[bluesblaster]

Have some Doritos

 

[Munjibunga]

What's that they say about making assumptions?

Obviously it's entirely hypothetical anyway.

 

[Munjibunga]

My official answer - I really dont know and none of you really do either.

We all have opinions of course, some very very compelling and some likely correct but again, in the end it comes down to the fact that we really just dont know. Because of that, it just becomes an endless loop of opinion-tossing.

Spoken like a true agnostic. I use that exact phrase often.

 

[geeza]

What's that they say about making assumptions?

It's fun?

 

[MatticusMania]

It's fun?

I was thinking: "Its dirty work, but someones gotta do it"

 

[Bloodhammer]

I love the dead before they're cold
Their blue-ing flesh for me to hold
Cadaver eyes upon me see nothing
I love the dead before they rise
No farewells, no goodbyes
I never even knew your now-rotting face
While friends and lovers mourn your silly grave
I have other uses for you, Darling
I love the dead

 

[Tituscrow]

^Jeepers. That's 40 years old. Yikes.

 

[Up the dose]

I can hear the bongwater spilling left and right.

Good one!

 

[bassinplace]

No.

"You" (as an individual thinking being with it's own identity) did not exist and therefore cannot be considered dead.

So by that rule, one would not be considered dead once they're dead either because they do not exist.

 

[DwaynieAD]

So by that rule, one would not be considered dead once they're dead either because they do not exist.

and the quoted post doesn't conflict with that.

 

[cfsporn]

Since 50% of me existed in my mother from the day she was born (and going back matrilineally ad infinitum), I have always existed in some form or another. And since I am a registered organ donor, theoretically I will continue to live on this planet (in some way) after I die.