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@Deleted member 271037 This church setup has the house board an estimated 60 away from where my DI is locate, but the Eden WTDI is an active DI pedal. I just used a passive DI as a test to give me some idea where the house board gain had me set at.

For this church, where I primarily play, I may select different basses to use in rotation. I’ll have to deal with the adjustments based on the bass and aways leave the Eden Bypass Off to give the signal from its DI powered. :thumbsup:
 
#84
DWBass said:
This. Palm muting definitely requires use of a compressor to boost the signal. Not understanding not being able to hear finger style.
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The Eden WTDI has a built-in Compressor. The issue wasn’t compressor usage related.
In this case, the issue was using a weak passive bass with the Eden WTDI’s Bypass set On, which means I was bypassing the EQ & the Compressor in the DI, AND having a sound guy on the house board who does know how to adjust the channel’s Gain.
When the Bypass is set to On the Eden WTDI output signal is very weak.
Those suggesting using a compressor aren’t understanding what the problem was. I wasn’t trying to reduce the dynamics of the slap output to the levels of the palm muting with finger plucking, and compressors don’t increase lower inout signals to match an aggressive attack levels.

So, at this point, I know the issues resulting in my original question and have made the necessary steps toward a resolution going forward.
 
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Nightman said:
@Deleted member 271037 This church setup has the house board an estimated 60 away from where my DI is locate, but the Eden WTDI is an active DI pedal. I just used a passive DI as a test to give me some idea where the house board gain had me set at.

For this church, where I primarily play, I may select different basses to use in rotation. I’ll have to deal with the adjustments based on the bass and aways leave the Eden Bypass Off to give the signal from its DI powered. :thumbsup:
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It's your decision of course but changing between different basses when faced with a PA system with no engineer and a "set&forget" situation at the mixing desk is asking for trouble. My advice would be to keep things as simple as possible. Find ONE bass/setup that works and stick with it.

This is just my personal opinion of course but I really don't think switching between basses will be a good idea here. Based on the information you have provided this is the best advice I can give you. It's either that or hire an engineer. It doesn't even have to be a professional engineer. Even an amateur with some basic skills and a good set of ears would make a LOT of difference in a situation like this.

If you're not prepared to keep your on-stage setup simple (and most importantly, constant/predictable) I don't see how this can possibly work out without an engineer. Making adjustments on-stage based on what you're hearing on stage will be a bad idea as you won't have a clue what things actually sound like in the audience.

Hope it works out for you somehow! :thumbsup:
 
#87
Update:
I upgraded my PB with a Keeley Compressor Pro and a Rupert Neve DI and now the sound guy said today that I was too strong! Ahhh, perfect! :thumbsup:

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#88
Nightman said:
Update:
I upgraded my PB with a Keeley Compressor Pro and a Rupert Neve DI and now the sound guy said today that I was too strong! Ahhh, perfect! :thumbsup:

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Too "strong" as in he can't trim the input gain back low enough to prevent clipping the channel input?
You could bring the out on the Eq back down a bit.
 
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#89
That was during individual sound check and I don’t know what he meant exactly, but I did reduce the gain on the Re/Q a notch until service started with choir and other musicians.
Those volunteers on the board are told not to make adjustments except on the vocal mic’s and musician’s hear back.
 
#90
Do you have a neck pickup or do you blend with more on bridge? Palm muting mutes the bridge pickup depending on your position too much and there is barely any sound going unless you go all the way and touch the bridge or use Gruv gear / Nordy mutes.
 
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Nightman said:
That was during individual sound check and I don’t know what he meant exactly, but I did reduce the gain on the Re/Q a notch until service started with choir and other musicians.
Those volunteers on the board are told not to make adjustments except on the vocal mic’s and musician’s hear back.
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I have people over here all the time who DI into my system and I’ve never told anybody that they are too strong. This is what my gain control is for. It sounds to me like your sound engineer is trying to get you to do his job for him.
 
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