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What Cabinet Should I buy?

markbmbass

markbmbass

Apr 19, 2012
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#1
Hi Guys,

I play in a cover band that does a wide variety of stuff, but mostly rock from the 90's on up. A good mix of classic rock is mixed in too.

I currently have a SWR workingman's 4004 410/115 stack, and a Mark Bass LT 800.

For some reason, the SWR does really bad with my Stingray, which is active. It produces farty sounds when I play it. It does not produce the same farty sounds when I play a Jazz Bass though. I love the Stingray, so not willing to part with it.

I would like to get some recommendations on cabinets. We play small-medium clubs, and I need a good cabinet(s) that will cut through the mix of two guitars and keys.

I am looking at the Epfiani UL, Bergantino CN, but not sure if you all might have a better suggestion. Any help is much appreciated.:hmm:
 
#2
markbmbass said:
Hi Guys,

I play in a cover band that does a wide variety of stuff, but mostly rock from the 90's on up. A good mix of classic rock is mixed in too.

I currently have a SWR workingman's 4004 410/115 stack, and a Mark Bass LT 800.

For some reason, the SWR does really bad with my Stingray, which is active. It produces farty sounds when I play it. It does not produce the same farty sounds when I play a Jazz Bass though. I love the Stingray, so not willing to part with it.

I would like to get some recommendations on cabinets. We play small-medium clubs, and I need a good cabinet(s) that will cut through the mix of two guitars and keys.

I am looking at the Epfiani UL, Bergantino CN, but not sure if you all might have a better suggestion. Any help is much appreciated.:hmm:
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I think you should take a look at your amp first.

The only thing appealing to me about the amp you are using is the weight and size. I hated the tone and eq points on it when I was trying out micros.

Secondly if you are looking at changing your cab there are a ton of great cabs out there. Depending on your tonal preference I would pair a 500-900 watt micro with any of the following.

Audiokinesis Thunderchild 212
Audiokinesis Hathor
Barefaced Bass Big Twin
Barefaced Bass Super 15
Greenboy Bassic
Greenboy Dually
fEArless 115
fEARful 1212/6/1
Baer ML-212
Baer ML-115

All of these are different flavors of awesome.
 
#3
CL400Peavey said:
I think you should take a look at your amp first.

The only thing appealing to me about the amp you are using is the weight and size. I hated the tone and eq points on it when I was trying out micros.

Secondly if you are looking at changing your cab there are a ton of great cabs out there. Depending on your tonal preference I would pair a 500-900 watt micro with any of the following.

Audiokinesis Thunderchild 212
Audiokinesis Hathor
Barefaced Bass Big Twin
Barefaced Bass Super 15
Greenboy Bassic
Greenboy Dually
fEArless 115
fEARful 1212/6/1
Baer ML-212
Baer ML-115

All of these are different flavors of awesome.
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Thanks for the reply. I have figured out some good sounds for the amp so far, and may change that in the future. However, how do I decide on what type of cabinet config to play? 112, 212, 115, 410, etc? I just want to make sure I make a good choice on that so I can have a good sound, and cut through.
 
#4
markbmbass said:
Thanks for the reply. I have figured out some good sounds for the amp so far, and may change that in the future. However, how do I decide on what type of cabinet config to play? 112, 212, 115, 410, etc? I just want to make sure I make a good choice on that so I can have a good sound, and cut through.
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IMO a good 410 is the best compromise of size and volume. It's the most speaker area within a given footprint. Many people are getting away with 212's now. If your band is really loud, 212's might be hard to cut through. I have used my Mesa WA Scout with extension 12 for a lot of gigs but when the bar fills up, I wish I had a bit more. My Berg AE410 leaves me wanting for nothing. Just turn it up and have fun. I use a Markbass LMT 800 with my AE410 most of the time. I really like the tones I can get out of that amp.
 
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MuthaFunk said:
IMO a good 410 is the best compromise of size and volume. It's the most speaker area within a given footprint. Many people are getting away with 212's now. If your band is really loud, 212's might be hard to cut through. I have used my Mesa WA Scout with extension 12 for a lot of gigs but when the bar fills up, I wish I had a bit more. My Berg AE410 leaves me wanting for nothing. Just turn it up and have fun. I use a Markbass LMT 800 with my AE410 most of the time. I really like the tones I can get out of that amp.
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The AE410 is a lighweight right?
 
#6
markbmbass said:
Thanks for the reply. I have figured out some good sounds for the amp so far, and may change that in the future. However, how do I decide on what type of cabinet config to play? 112, 212, 115, 410, etc? I just want to make sure I make a good choice on that so I can have a good sound, and cut through.
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How much volume do you want/need? Any limitations to the size/weight of the cab(s) you choose? What's your budget?

Figure this stuff out. Then you'll have a much better idea of your options & the way to go (or guys here can have a better idea of what to suggest).

Buying used is always your greatest bang for the buck. A great source is the TB classifieds. If you can find one of the cabs like CL400Peavey suggested, it/they would be super choices.

If you'd rather do new, again, the suggestions from CL400Peavey, above, are great. And LDS is another outfit to consider. He'll build any cab you'd like.

www.LowDownSound.com
 
#8
mjac28 said:
What's wrong with a Mark Bass Cab?
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IMHO they dont have a lot of useable low end. I know that is subjective but I have never played a markbass cab or combo that sounded good to my ear.

Additionally IMHO, a 410 is the worst cab configuration. A 212 has a smaller foot print and better dispersion. A 215 has a smaller footprint, better dispersion, and greater displacement. If a 215 isnt cutting through the mix, then its improperly designed. Want to go modular? Two 210's or 115's stacked vertically will be the way to go. (all of this is for "traditional" cabs.)
 
#9
I've owned many cabinets, 410's, 210,s, 212's by many different makers. I gig a lot so ease of transport is an important factor. My Xsonics 212CF is the size and weight of a 112 and puts out as much as my old Eden 410xlt or Genz Benz Neo 212. If you don't like it, they will take it back. Tough to argue with that, IMO.:bassist:
 
#10
My budget would be round $1000, give or take. I want to get something that will perform well, and sound better. I am willing to invest, but there is literally no place near me to try any of the higher-end cabinets, other than Guitar Center.

I am thinking maybe 2 of the 112's of someone might work. I am also thinking of an AE410. The demo on youtube by a fellow tb'er sounds pretty damn good.
 
#12
My Xsonics 2155cf will not only keep up with a 410 it will crush it. Again, a great trial period as well, call Nick up and just talk about your needs and tone goals. FWIW - I also have a Ampeg 810 and this cab easily covers anything I used it for at only 49lbs
 
#18
I also have the 4004, and I have to wonder whether you're overdriving the input with the Stingray. Are you using the "passive/active" input with both basses? Does the stingray behave better when using the "active" input jack? How about turning down at the Stingray and up on the Master - same issues?

Realistically if you're getting a good overall result (tone and volume) with the Jazz, then the issue isn't the cabinet(s) you're driving.
 

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