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What did I buy??

#62
NOVAX said:
Those pix are fine. What would you have her do? Drag her Hasselblad down to the driveway and instruct the crew to set up a tripod and some reflectors?
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Big +1 :thumbsup:

She said "sorry for the poor quality photo" in her post #5. And yet she keeps getting slapped around for not submitting crystal clear pictures. How many times would she need to say sorry before the lambasting ends? I'm sure she is doing the best she can and she is reaching out to the TB community asking for help. Sure, crystal clear pics are nicer to look at and might help us help her even more, but the pics she gave us are what she gave us. IMO, I think the pics that she provided helped alot.
 
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SactoBass said:
Big +1 :thumbsup:

She said "sorry for the poor quality photo" in her post #5. And yet she keeps getting slapped around for not submitting crystal clear pictures. How many times would she need to say sorry before the lambasting ends? I'm sure she is doing the best she can and she is reaching out to the TB community asking for help. Sure, crystal clear pics are nicer to look at and might help us help her even more, but the pics she gave us are what she gave us. IMO, I think the pics that she provided helped alot.
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If I could, I would like this a hundred times.
 
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#68
Fndrgrl said:
Hello!!!
Forgive me in advance. I don't play bass. I bought what I was told was a bass amp on the secondary market. I told the individual that there was nothing to plug into. After a difference of opinion I bought it thinking it was a vintage speaker. It is actually a cabinet without an amp. Its a fender vintage cabinet with the fender logo underlined. As far as I can see it was made between 1968 and 1974. Where is a good source of information??? Fender tried to help but couldn't. The serial number as far as I can determine is M 18020 or M16020. I have no clue as to whether it would work if had an amp. Or if it could be used for a fender guitar that isn't a bass. Would there be no treble or midrange?
What the heck is going on??? Any ideas??
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OK...in a nutshell, what he said:
SactoBass said:
Hello Fendergirl and welcome to Talkbass!

I think what you have there is a vintage Bassman cab. Beach Boys bassist Brian Wilson (any many other bassists of that era) played through a cab like that. The cab was usually driven by a 50 watt Fender Bassman tube amp, such as shown in this pic:

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Or it could be a Bandmaster guitar cab, both circa '65, they were both identical except for the type of drivers(speakers)used inside. Fender in those days didn't exactly design their cabs scientifically. By 1967, they had enlarged/uprighted both models. At some point in its existence someone painted the grill cloth black, originally it was something of a grey/brown sparkle, as in the above photo. As for the current speakers, don't pry the grill cloth off, you can't do it. Turn it around, and unscrew all of the the screws on the back panel(a time consuming task if you don't have a power drill and the correct screwdriver bit. Then pry the back panel off, and take a look at what speakers you do have mounted in there, those are definitely not original, which is not a bad thing per se, but you do want to have a proper pair of bass 12" drivers in there, and have them correctly wired. Having old, original drivers in there if it were to be used as a guitar cabinet might be great and vintage sounding, but now after 55 years there are so many better choices, including Neo's if weight is an issue. That cab's dimensions/design may not be the best/efficient match for many modern drivers, so keep that in mind, and yes the metal logo was in the wrong direction. Once you get all this stuff sorted out, and want to use it as a stand-alone cab for bass or guitar, since it is not in primo vintage condition you may want to consider putting wheels on it(or else just use a two-wheeler, if not springing for a road case if this cab is important to you). I assume there's a strap handle somewhere on it?
 
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#70
bassstrangler said:
I think the photos were no help. They are completely useless in determining anything. If it's rude to point out that really blurry photos are no help, then I guess I'm rude.

Regardless of her membership to another site, I honestly don't think it's rude or is anyone being rude to her. The pictures offer no help in assisting her.
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So it's a dual-driver Fender branded cabinet of some sort. That's a good start. Besides, aren't we missing the fact that we may have a compelling, available guitarist here?
Why is everyone focusing(sic) on her photography?
It's not a single answer situation. We're out of the blocks. Information and answers will both accumulate exponentially.

Breathe. Breathe in the air.
 
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NOVAX said:
So it's a dual-driver Fender branded cabinet of some sort. That's a good start. Besides, aren't we missing the fact that we may have a compelling, available guitarist here?
Why is everyone focusing(sic) on her photography?
It's not a single answer situation. We're out of the blocks. Information and answers will both accumulate exponentially.

Breathe. Breathe in the air.
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And if anyone can determine more than that from those pictures, then they either have super powers, or image enhancing software.
 
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#79
Michedelic said:
OK...in a nutshell, what he said:


Or it could be a Bandmaster guitar cab, both circa '65, they were both identical except for the type of drivers(speakers)used inside. Fender in those days didn't exactly design their cabs scientifically. By 1967, they had enlarged/uprighted both models. At some point in its existence someone painted the grill cloth black, originally it was something of a grey/brown sparkle, as in the above photo. As for the current speakers, don't pry the grill cloth off, you can't do it. Turn it around, and unscrew all of the the screws on the back panel(a time consuming task if you don't have a power drill and the correct screwdriver bit. Then pry the back panel off, and take a look at what speakers you do have mounted in there, those are definitely not original, which is not a bad thing per se, but you do want to have a proper pair of bass 12" drivers in there, and have them correctly wired. Having old, original drivers in there if it were to be used as a guitar cabinet might be great and vintage sounding, but now after 55 years there are so many better choices, including Neo's if weight is an issue. That cab's dimensions/design may not be the best/efficient match for many modern drivers, so keep that in mind, and yes the metal logo was in the wrong direction. Once you get all this stuff sorted out, and want to use it as a stand-alone cab for bass or guitar, since it is not in primo vintage condition you may want to consider putting wheels on it(or else just use a two-wheeler, if not springing for a road case if this cab is important to you). I assume there's a strap handle somewhere on it?
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Great post, Mich! Yep, based on the pics, it's gotta be either a Bassman cab or Bandmaster cab. I can't think of any other cabs that look like that. And I totally agree that having the OP remove the rear panel and look at the speakers is the only real way to figure it out.
 

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