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What did you learn today?

Today I learned that I need a bit more emotional support in my life, and I have no idea how to get it. I don't mean therapy, although that might not hurt at some point. But I realized that in spite of my efforts to have healthy and reciprocal friendships with people, I've mostly not succeeded. When was the last time someone hugged me, or I hugged someone? When was the last time I laughed with someone, or cried with someone? And although I've done what I can to feed my soul in various ways, these have been mostly individual pursuits, or one-offs with no possibility of continuing relationship.

Maybe my expectations are out of line. Maybe single people in their 40s just don't have close friends. Maybe they drink a lot and have sex with strangers they find on CL. In spite of being an active participant in my church, serving on a civic commission, getting exercise, being friendly to my neighbors, inviting people over for dinner or coffee, I'm feeling kinda... lonely. Is this just how it is? Do I just get used to it?

Man I really feel for you as I feel like i'm in a very similar boat as you. I think a lot more people then you think are in a similar situation as us. I also figure that life simply isn't going to be easy/comfortable most of the time and that's just the way it is. I think almost everyone - every person I see out there on the street has some sort of demon they are fighting weather it's insecurities, loneliness, abuse, physical pain, etc. and I figure they are all just trying to do the best they can.

Although this isn't necessarily going to fill the void of loneliness, I feel like making other people happy has made me happier which made me feel less lonely. I don't know about you but the happier I am the less lonely I feel. Even small gestures like smiling or nodding to a stranger on the street makes me feel good because I know that when a stranger acknowledges me on the street I feel good as well. So give and take.
 
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Today I learned that I need a bit more emotional support in my life, and I have no idea how to get it.

Well, at least you've got us here on TB!
Admittedly I wouldn't recommend taking some of the advice on here too seriously (for one thing, some damn fools seem to think Tuna Noodle Casserole is a valid food choice) but there's lots of friendly and helpful folks...some of whom I'm quite sure would be happy to even drop by and give a hug.
 
Wear gloves when using chicken wire. Darn piece of wire went right under the fingernail of my fretting hand pointer finger, and I have to play today and tomorrow morning. :mad:

YOWCH!!! Wow. That's nasty. Hope you experience some miraculous healing about now.


Man I really feel for you as I feel like i'm in a very similar boat as you. I think a lot more people then you think are in a similar situation as us. I also figure that life simply isn't going to be easy/comfortable most of the time and that's just the way it is. I think almost everyone - every person I see out there on the street has some sort of demon they are fighting weather it's insecurities, loneliness, abuse, physical pain, etc. and I figure they are all just trying to do the best they can.

Although this isn't necessarily going to fill the void of loneliness, I feel like making other people happy has made me happier which made me feel less lonely. I don't know about you but the happier I am the less lonely I feel. Even small gestures like smiling or nodding to a stranger on the street makes me feel good because I know that when a stranger acknowledges me on the street I feel good as well. So give and take.

This is a good point. I do some AA service work, I do smile at people I encounter on my walks, and I have invited many folks from church (not all at once!) to my home for a meal, coffee, dessert etc in hopes to begin to build relationships. To a one, they have all been happy to come and seemed to have a good time. They thank me and leave. While I don't have the explicit expectation that they will reciprocate, I did anticipate that this would be a building block to... something else, even if it's just an extra smile coming my way at church the next week.

Nope! Nobody has reciprocated, nobody has sent a text later to say 'Hey that was fun.' Huh. Well wait, that's not true: I invited one couple and they did follow up with thanks later, but during the meal one of them said, 'We've been going to this church for over six months, and you as another new person are the only one to invite us for a meal, coffee, join them at a restaurant, anything.' And I was talking to a very active lifetime member the other day about someone who has gone to the church for a year, and the lifetime member had vaguely heard her name but had no idea who she was. Come on. There's 80 people in the room. Go meet some folks. Get out of your own little tiny world.

So I know this isn't just me. And I get that this isn't the 1970s, when people hung out more with each other's families. But the only people in this town who are at all friendly to me are other recent transplants. Eventually there may be enough of us that we'll change the culture of this place, but for now it's pretty lonely. I don't believe that the locals intend to be rude. I think they just don't know that other places have different norms.

Which brings up a point: is it then up to me to just suck it up and get used to the norms here? Apparently the norms include not being neighborly, not being friendly, staying in one's own bubble. I'm not sure my mental health will be ok with that.


Well, at least you've got us here on TB!
Admittedly I wouldn't recommend taking some of the advice on here too seriously (for one thing, some damn fools seem to think Tuna Noodle Casserole is a valid food choice) but there's lots of friendly and helpful folks...some of whom I'm quite sure would be happy to even drop by and give a hug.

TNC is an abomination. Now that that's out of the way, I will say that for my first nine or ten months here, you guys were ALL I had. This was the only place I could come to interact with people who were pleasant. This place kept me from completely losing my mind and from being utterly alone. That's no small thing.
 
@blastoff99 , it sounds like you need a new church! Or if that's a bit extreme, perhaps talk to the church leader and see about organising some sort of social event for the newer folks.
I don't know how big a town you're in, but I'm guessing like most small towns in Ireland, you're still not considered a local for maybe twenty years, and even then only if you've brought up kids there.
People generally seem to live more isolated lives these days, and are less comfortable actually talking to others (there's been several threads here about how especially the younger folk seem almost terrified of actually speaking and much rather use emails or text or whatsapp to communicate), lots of people work double jobs or are studying after work to better themselves, leaving little time for random social activity.
I guess it'll just take time and patience.
That, or have some kids. Nothing gets people talking more than sharing school runs, kids parties, etc...
Or a dog might work...
 
@blastoff99 , it sounds like you need a new church! Or if that's a bit extreme, perhaps talk to the church leader and see about organising some sort of social event for the newer folks.
I don't know how big a town you're in, but I'm guessing like most small towns in Ireland, you're still not considered a local for maybe twenty years, and even then only if you've brought up kids there.
People generally seem to live more isolated lives these days, and are less comfortable actually talking to others (there's been several threads here about how especially the younger folk seem almost terrified of actually speaking and much rather use emails or text or whatsapp to communicate), lots of people work double jobs or are studying after work to better themselves, leaving little time for random social activity.
I guess it'll just take time and patience.
That, or have some kids. Nothing gets people talking more than sharing school runs, kids parties, etc...
Or a dog might work...


Ha, kids are out of the question. But the awesome dog gets smiles as we walk. People smile at HIM. Then I smile at the people smiling at him, and they may or may not smile at me. Rarely do they say a word. I get that people are walking and listening to their podcasts and don't want to be disturbed, so I don't push it.

New church... nah. Denominationally this is about the only place I can be. And I was disinvited to or made to feel very uncomfortable at the first five churches I tried here, so this is a huge improvement!

I am trying really hard to like this place, but they aren't making it easy.
 
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I learned about how HARD the
Gummint made it on Black artists...actors, musicians, dancers, play writes... coming home from WWII, expecting a better, more tolerant and inclusive America.
The documentary is called Scandelize My Name, and it reports on the Pre-McCarthy Red Scare...mid-1940s till early ‘50s.
 
Ha, kids are out of the question. But the awesome dog gets smiles as we walk. People smile at HIM. Then I smile at the people smiling at him, and they may or may not smile at me. Rarely do they say a word. I get that people are walking and listening to their podcasts and don't want to be disturbed, so I don't push it.

New church... nah. Denominationally this is about the only place I can be. And I was disinvited to or made to feel very uncomfortable at the first five churches I tried here, so this is a huge improvement!

I am trying really hard to like this place, but they aren't making it easy.
Come back to Chicago.
 
That the so-called "helpful meds"(Prozac to be less anxious, Xanex to help sleep at night due to coughing as a part of congestive heart failure) given like candy to patients are EXTREMELY DANGEROUS as the open heart surgery patient who not only has to survive surgery plus coming out of anesthesia.....but thanks to the "helpful drugs" the patient gets to COLD TURKEY off of those([Invalid or Expired Link Removed] . Docs and nurses call it benzo withdrawal. Sweet. So now a heart surgery patient getting AVR and CABG not only has to worry about atrial fib, they also get to withdraw and possibly have total seizures thanks to benzo med withdrawal.

I just watched 2 days and nights of this <deleted expletive> as a loved-one went through it including a total seizure as I was at the CICU bedside. Seizure port-op is possibly a STROKE so heart and head were scanned but both were OK as it was the <deleted cursewords> benzoCrap withdrawal that caused the seizure. I'll have some very harsh things to say to the GP who gave them these next time I run across him.

Here's a song for the SOB that prescribed those to my loved-one and the manufacturers of SSRI's benzo's, and opioids:
 
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TIL about Gustav Stickley's philosophy about relic'ing items (in his case, furniture). He calls it decoration.

Toward the end of the middle paragraph.

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