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What do more costly basses provide?

View attachment 3708530 If you are rich, go for it and spend $5k on a custom bass if it makes you happy.

If just a common family man working stiff like myself, get what you can afford and modify. I’m stoked on my -$300 basses and have made lots of music on them. I tinker, modify, paint em....(Ibanez, OLP)

If I ever get rich I might get a fancy expensive one but maybe not.

it’s all bass so rock what you like!!:laugh::hyper::bassist:

Those used SRX2EX2s are some of the greatest playing values on the used market these days. They seem to go for around $200 and have necks that are fantastic.
 
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I don't mind these topics as I'm here for information but sometimes it's nice to shoot the crap and debate a bit. It is a forum after all.

Anyways, you are paying for the labor (manufacturing), and the brand name, marketing, and materials like everything else. Nowadays, you can find a good bass at any budget especially if you buy used. The other day I recorded with a SQ squier p bass ($500 street price) and a jaguar SS ($200 street price). I used all the plugins and preamps I needed. By the end of it I forgot which one is which and could not tell lol.
 
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Before I comment on your OP, perhaps you might consider answering one question. Why did you start a thread that generates 7 pages of responses; but, only participate with one additional post? FWIW, that makes your OP appear to be trolling.

Anyhow...

The OP does pose a fair Q, which continues to be discussed on TB. There are a number of aspects to consider.

First, Econ 101 says that price is all about supply, demand, and specifications. Bass Guitar pricing is no different.

But, the OP goes one step further, asking what do higher priced instruments do that lower priced instruments do not. Fair enough.

The answer lies in understanding the range of gig requirements, for which players compete. There is a huge range of gigs! Thus a huge range of basses. It’s like picking the right set of clothes for the occasion.

Let’s take our upright brothers and sisters for just a moment. If one plays in a major symphony orchestra as a gig, the orchestra typically will prefer a VERY expensive, possibly 200+ year old instrument. Why? Generally for a combination of tonal and aesthetic reasons. Do 200 yo Italian basses necessarily sound better than high quality current production basses. Not to most critical ears; but, that’s the gig. Do the 200 yo Italian basses sound better than Kay plywood basses? To an untrained ear, I would say no; but, the player certainly can discriminate the differences.

Basically same thing for electric bass guitars. And, you have to understand that there is an entirely separate collector market overlaid on the older Fender instruments. So, no, in many cases price does not equate to instrument playing qualities.

Smaller builders, such as Alembic and Fodera as examples, charge what they need to charge to build their differentiated products and stay in business. The fact that they stay in business suggests that the demand exists. Do their tonal qualities appropriately scale from an MIM Fender bass? Clearly from a player perspective, the continued demand says yes. But, players both experience the instrument in a different way from a listener and are subject to different gig requirements. So, the average listener may not be able to differentiate the Alembic from the MIM Fender; whereas the player is just trying to hold down the competitive gig and sound as good as they can.

To address your own Q, I would suggest that you go out and try to play an Alembic Series I / II bass and an MIM Fender through the same rig and come to your own conclusions. When in doubt, try the extremes. I expect you would readily experience the differences. Whether or not those differences are important to your listeners depends entirely on your gig.

And, then there is all the stuff in the middle.

Hope that TL;DR answer addresses your Q.
 
Pardon my curiosity, but if the Zon is the best instrument you've ever owned, and everything about it is flawless, and it was built expressly and exclusively for you alone to meet your particular ergonomic requirements, to the point of having the body redesigned, I'm genuinely wondering how an apparently "off the rack" instrument is still your #1 and favorite. Was the Zon still not quite custom enough, or did you recover from your injuries? What happened?

The Zon isn't the best instrument I've owned, it is the best in terms of the specific *physical* features I mentioned (construction, action, fit and finish, weight, ergonomics, etc.).

When it comes to pure *tone,* my favorite for most situations is still my old Carvin with Aero pickups, which has been my No. 1 bass for something like 18+ years. The Zon is superior in every other way, and it sounds great, but the Carvin simply is the sound that I hear in my head when I think of bass.

Either way, I use both basses constantly. I use the Carvin slightly more, because of my tonal preference, but I am generally happy to sub in the Zon when I want a change or when injuries dictate. With my current main gig, I feel that it is a toss up as to which sounds better for our live mix, although I still prefer the Carvin for almost all recordings. A combination of a slight improvement in some of my injuries and a generally lighter rehearsal schedule these days means I can get away with using the Carvin (which is a walnut and maple boat anchor) more often than before, but I still use the Zon to help on that front and expect I'll probably have to do so increasingly once I get a few more years down the road.
 
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The Zon isn't the best instrument I've owned, it is the best in terms of the specific *physical* features I mentioned (construction, action, fit and finish, weight, ergonomics, etc.).

When it comes to pure *tone,* my favorite for most situations is still my old Carvin with Aero pickups, which has been my No. 1 bass for something like 18+ years. The Zon is superior in every other way, and it sounds great, but the Carvin simply is the sound that I hear in my head when I think of bass.

Either way, I use both basses constantly. I use the Carvin slightly more, because of my tonal preference, but I am generally happy to sub in the Zon when I want a change or when injuries dictate. With my current main gig, I feel that it is a toss up as to which sounds better for our live mix, although I still prefer the Carvin for almost all recordings. A combination of a slight improvement in some of my injuries and a generally lighter rehearsal schedule these days means I can get away with using the Carvin (which is a walnut and maple boat anchor) more often than before, but I still use the Zon to help on that front and expect I'll probably have to do so increasingly once I get a few more years down the road.

Thanks very much for the added detail. Do you think it'd make a difference if you stuck Aero pickups in the Zon?
 
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I'm adding some additional thoughts on this, although I still haven't come to any definite conclusions. I definitely understand both points of view and, in fact, simultaneously HAVE both points of view. Anyway...

One of my other hobbies used to be (past tense) computers as I used to work in the tech field. There was a time when I would spend $400 on a graphics card. Now that I'm older, and hopefully wiser, I don't see a need to do so.

The last graphics card I bought on November 2019 cost $80 and it does everything I ask of it. No need to spend more, IMO. The only reason I bought it was I was cleaning things up and accidentally dripped some Windex down inside of the case, which cooked the last one that was 6 years old. I had zero intentions of replacing it, except for the Windex mishap.

So, there was a time when I used to spend a decent chunk of change on something when I wanted the latest and greatest. I am no longer willing to do so.

Another hobby of mine is cycling and if you've priced any new high end road bikes you KNOW they can easily cost a few thousand dollars. However, last year I spent most of my time on a 2004 Raleigh Supercourse (I only paid $650 new on closeout) with 105 components and I had a blast. I don't think having an expensive bike made of unobtainium would have made me any happier. And I'm 100% sure it wouldn't have made me much faster. Maybe 1% to 2%, but as I don't race it doesn't really matter.

Basically what I'm trying to say is, it costs a lot of money to pursue that last few percent and it's up to the individual to determine whether it's worth it or not. I my case I guess it isn't.
 
I’m not averse to the idea of custom made basses. I have one, although it was not outrageously expensive. The qualities I want are good playability, solid accurate construction, a stable neck with well finished fretwork, good pickups, reliable wiring and an aesthetic body shape. Art basses don’t appeal to me other than that they are beautiful to look at but I don’t want one.
 
A higher end bass can get you out of the Fender/Fender clone world although that has seeped into the boutique world, too.

That's up to the individual. For me, it is.
On this we both agree!

Although I do not have to spend "Boocoo Bucks to get away from the Fender/Fender clone planet.
Two $500.00 used Tune bass gets me far enough away!
 
my vote:
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I just got back from Sam's Club where I saw Levi's 505 jeans priced at $30. I don't know if many of you have been in the new jeans market, but 30 Quatloos for a pair of 505s is about as good as it gets. Sitting in the adjacent pile were Member's Mark (Sam's Club's house brand) for just under $13.

I picked up a pair of each and examined the thickness of the material and the stitching. Granted, I'm not a seamstress, but they looked about the same to me except for the tag on the hip pocket.

Since high school I've pretty much been a Levi's jeans kind of guy, in fact, I'm wearing a pair right now, but since they've moved manufacturing to China I no longer think they're worth a premium. In other words, I'm going to give the Member's Mark jeans a try next time I buy jeans.

Sometimes, not all the time, but sometimes you're paying for a name.
 
I just got back from Sam's Club where I saw Levi's 505 jeans priced at $30. I don't know if many of you have been in the new jeans market, but 30 Quatloos for a pair of 505s is about as good as it gets. Sitting in the adjacent pile were Member's Mark (Sam's Club's house brand) for just under $13.

I picked up a pair of each and examined the thickness of the material and the stitching. Granted, I'm not a seamstress, but they looked about the same to me except for the tag on the hip pocket.

Since high school I've pretty much been a Levi's jeans kind of guy, in fact, I'm wearing a pair right now, but since they've moved manufacturing to China I no longer think they're worth a premium. In other words, I'm going to give the Member's Mark jeans a try next time I buy jeans.

Sometimes, not all the time, but sometimes you're paying for a name.

This is based only on what I've seen, but I often wonder if builders like Fodera, Zon, and MTD are in this boat.

I'm not disparaging their instruments, far from it, but I do wonder if the finished product really does warrant the price of admission. Then again, I want a Carl Thompson, and the same questioning could be applied to that desire as well.

But that does make me wonder--will there ever be an objective answer to the OP's question?

Off topic--nice interocitor.