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What do you NOT like about playing bass?

Its boring playing by yourself. Sure, I practice to recordings, work on sight reading; work on technique and tone, etc. But it’s boring most of the time. If I’m playing for my personal enjoyment, mostly I’m playing guitar or piano. Of course, playing with others is a total hoot.

A lot of people seem to be posting this, and they all seem to be guitar players. The investment I'd recommend: a boomerang (or other looping device). It's awesome, and it allows you to lay down a bass line and some chords and then just let that play and throw down some sweet melodies...but even before I had that I never had that problem, so here's a solution: don't approach it (when playing by yourself) like a guitar. Don't go for chords or shred, just play the bass. I can see playing basslines as boring (as that is mostly root notes anyway), but to me playing by yourself isn't just practicing. Have fun improvising--to me its infinitely more fun on the bass. And always, if what you're playing bores you then step up the difficulty level. Challenge always increases interest.

for me, it's the relative costs of instruments, strings, and amplification, as compared to guitar, or even drums, for that matter.

Let's analyze the cost of rigs for the metal band I'm in:

Me - $900 (what you see in my sig, minus the 4x10 but plus the Eden D210T I'm getting...certainly not a high end rig but it works)

Guitar 1 - $1200 (or so, a Peavey XXL Head into a Mesa 2x12)

Guitar 2 - $1200 (or so, same head into a Vader 2x12)

Drums - $2400 (and he got this DW kit quoted to him for that much at a guitar center when it was really worth $3500...but he still go it for the quoted price)

As far as instruments go, I hear ya (but only slightly) IMO higher end basses cost more than guitars, but on the lower end of the spectrum (even Schecter, which is more middle range) the guitars are more expensive. One of the guitar players in said band has a Schecter Hellraiser 7-String which ran him 700-800...their highest-end 6 String (Stiletto Studio)? $650 (or something like that)

I hate that not only I can't (or at least don't think I do - hard to tell from the stage) get a good live sounds, but that OTHER bassists I see live often have a bad live sound.

This mystifies me. I LOVE my live sound. I typically LOVE other bassists' live sounds too. Either your equipment is crap or you just haven't spent enough time with your eq, because to me this doesn't seem that hard. What I do hate about playing live (mentioned earlier) is the constant volume wars w/ guitarists. But recently I realized what this problem stems from-having two guitarists in a band. They don't seem to realize that there's two of them and one of you...until you point it out to them, and in my experience they realize that. Recommend to them (and everyone in a small electric ensemble situation, really) to have two channels: one for lead and one for everything else. All three of us in one of the bands I'm in do this (I use my overdrive as a solo boost) and it works really well. Really well.

I hate three things about playing bass:
-the above (volume wars)

-Bands where when you join they simply play there stuff and expect you to just look at their fretboard and play the root of the chord in whatever rhythm they're playing. It's painful as a bass player because you just wind up plugging away on the root and making tenative attempts to venture out because you don't know the exact key the song's in.

-People that think the bass is too high in the mix on recorded stuff. This *almost* never happens, so I was really mad when someone said this on our myspace (different band) about our latest cd: "I like the new song, but I would mess with the mix a bit. The guitar(s) are far too low in the mix."

-oh and a fourth: general ignorance about the instrument

but realize these aren't things I hate about the bass, it's others' perceptions of the bass

Link Removed to decide for yourself (I agree with them on that *one* of the guitars is way too soft, but definitely not both)
 
For me it would have to be these:

1.) The cost of Bass equipment. I have spent so much money on my stuff only to be blown away by a peavey 210 combo amp from a young guitarist.

2.) The Weight and non portability. I am currently looking to add a 210 to my rig to just use that for small stuff, but dangit if any bass stuff is not heavy. I mean Neodymium is starting to catch on and Praise the Lord!! It's still a bit heavy especially when combined with a 35 pound head and a protective case.

3.) General Ignorance/lack of respect/lack of musical expression. Enough said.

4.) Difficulty in solo work. Not practicing by myself, personally that is a fun groove fest wank off time. But at times when the whole band just drops out and I am expected to solo. I am a SUPPORT instrument I can't do the fancy shmancy stuff that our guitarist does. But I am very thankful that they allow me to do it as it forces me to grow.
 
Two things. One the cost of strings when replaced with any kind of frequency. And all you "I haven't replaced my strings since Jesus was ten" people just keep it to yourself. And, two, I spend a ton of money, time, blood, sweat and tears trying to get a unique tone that is exactly what I want my bass to sound like, only to have Joe Sound Guy throw a Berhinger D.I. on the floor and say, "Here... Plug you guitar into this..."
 
Two things. One the cost of strings when replaced with any kind of frequency. And all you "I haven't replaced my strings since Jesus was ten" people just keep it to yourself. And, two, I spend a ton of money, time, blood, sweat and tears trying to get a unique tone that is exactly what I want my bass to sound like, only to have Joe Sound Guy throw a Berhinger D.I. on the floor and say, "Here... Plug you guitar into this..."

I'll second the price of strings. Especially when GC sells 10 sets of Guitar strings for $30 and I have to pay $20+ for one set.

As for the live sound thing... I do run live sound too. Being a bass player, I have received many, many compliments on how the bass sounds in my mixes. UNLESS, the bass player is clueless and has a cagillion watts and uses them all. Then they'll be lucky to even be in the mix as I have to bring the rest of the band up to his volume level.

Every one who is having issues with their live sound.... make nice with the sound guy. Always ask, DON'T TELL. He doesn't tell you how to play bass, don't tell him how to run sound. :rollno: If he is "worth-his-weight", he'll do you right.

Just my .002 worth.
 
-Mostly the same stuff thats already been stated, plus..

1. Can never seem to get the same speed on the bass I've developed as a lead player

2. The fret wear is really annoying, yet seemingly unavoidable

3. My left hand wears out fairly quickly when playing bass 'at speed'
 
1. Can never seem to get the same speed on the bass I've developed as a lead player

2. The fret wear is really annoying, yet seemingly unavoidable

3. My left hand wears out fairly quickly when playing bass 'at speed'
A recovering guitar player, eh?

1. If you can play as fast on the bass as you can on the guitar, Jaco is going to look up to you from heaven. And bodybuilders will envy your fingers. The physics of playing those fat strings are just a lot harder than playing slinkies.

2. Fret wear? Stop playing chrome round wounds! I've been playing my '73 Jazz since '76, and don't have noticeable fretwear.

4. See #1. Its those fat strings...Working out with a squeeze ball will help a bit.

Bass equipment is very expensive - especially since I live in Denmark.
My guess is that's a Denmark thing. I see giggable basses for US$600 and under, and giggable amps for $600 and under. And maybe as littel as half that, if you buy used. Can't be much more more than guitar...and maybe about the same.

Of course, the GASers here spend $$$$$$.
 
The fact that you cant do solo gigs in a bar or cafe' I write alot of lyrics and sometimes I wish I could play more than one note at a time on the piano or play guitar.
I dont get bored playing alone much because I love to create new bass lines.
And I don't have much trouble with the ignorance factor because my band was really happy to get abass player and we dont have a lead guitarist so I get to do a lot of fill and flair.
 
Always ask, DON'T TELL.
I think if a sound guy's throwing a D.I. your way you're perfectly in the right to tell, not ask. Sorry if you're a guy that does that but that's just IMO.

The fact that you cant do solo gigs in a bar or cafe' I write alot of lyrics and sometimes I wish I could play more than one note at a time on the piano or play guitar.

Learn chords. It's simply your style that is holding you back from playing solo in a bar or cafe--plus if you learned how to effectively play solo while singing you'd probably get a better response doing it on bass vs. just being another solo songwriter playing a guitar and singing...or purchase a boomerang. This same tool that makes playing solo by yourself more interesting can make playing solo in front of others more interesting too. Not to mention infinitely cooler and more mind blowing...
 
I don't like how I can play an hour-long set, standing pretty much in the center of the stage, and even sing lead on 3-4 songs, and then have people not recognize me afterwards. I will be standing with the rest of the band, and get into a conversation about the show with someone from the crowd, and after a few minutes you can practically see a light bulb go on over their head and they say "Oh! Are you in the band?"

I don't think it's my stage presence, as I do move around quite a bit and interact with the crowd. I guess bass = cloaking device.
 
I think if a sound guy's throwing a D.I. your way you're perfectly in the right to tell, not ask. Sorry if you're a guy that does that but that's just IMO.

But you can say, I'd rather you mic the cabinet or, please take the D.I. off of my (insert manufacture/model number here). For instance, my Sansamp RPM has an effected out. I just ASK the sound guy to take it from there vs a D.I. off of the bass.

Just remember, it IS the sound guy that has your band's sound in his hands. Go ahead, act like an a$$ and see how you sound. :ninja:

Just play nice, that's all I am suggesting. :smug:


Just my .002 worth.
 
1. Everything is expensive as said before.

2. Other bass players I talk to give me crap about my lack of huge equipment and think I cant play because I dont have a trace elliot. (I only actually own a practice amp because Im in college and a big amp would only serve to drain my wallet and tick everyone on my floor off.) I borrow equipment for live play. Gear snobbery drives me totally nuts.

3. The fact that I cant play guitar very well because you cant fingure jog on it.

4. Acoustic Bassis are totally worthless.

thats about it.
 
Love playing bass first off, but I hate it when the guitar player makes a mistake and immediately everyone looks at the bass player thinking that we made the mistake. Especially when its a 3 piece band with an "exclusive" lead singer. I hate that look.
 
I hate having to stand still on a small stage while the guitards at least get some swinging room with their smaller axes.

I hate being asked to regurgitate an improvement an ex-bassist made to a cover line, because "thats what the other bass player used to do".
Then again, I heard the new bass player in my last cover band threatened to quit if they didn't stop asking him to play lines the way I did, and hearing that felt good :D

I hate telling people I play bass and them dismissing it by asking if I play any real instruments, or being told it's easy.
 
HI

The lack of care taken by soundmen at shows. Total morons. They just get a signal and say ok. Meanwhile, they take 5 minutes eqing guitars which they will never get to sound good because the idiot guitarist is using a 7 year old POD. Totally hilarious

Rob
 
i don't like some of the selection of basses in the <$1000 price range. what i mean is most basses in this price range are rather standard body styles. i've been gassing for a Fernadez Vertigo or Ravelle bass, but they don't do that. i've found some great non-standard body styles that i love from Lecompte, but of course, it's a Lecompte and it's out of my price range.

that said, i do own two jazz's, and will soon own two P's. so i'm not unhappy. i'd just like more variety.

+1

There are many more models of guitar to choose from at that price point.


I also think bass players don't get nearly the variety of bass amps (especially tube amps) that guitar players do. :spit: