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What is a 'dead spot'?

All standard electric basses have dead spots. Period!

The theory behing dead spots can be hard to understand (and I'm no expert) but a bit simplified: Dead spots happen because the note you're playing is at a frequency that makes the entire instrument vibrate. All physical objects have a resonant frequency like this. You can't get around the laws of physics. The energy of the vibrating string is transferred to the instrument faster than at other notes/frets. This causes the vibration of the string itself to stop almost instantly. You get poor sustain and a note that dies out almost immediately.

Dead spots may be more difficult to notice if you're playing alone, especially when using a smaller practise amp as some of the higher harmonics will still ring out (while the fundamental dies out almost instantaneously). If you take the same bass and play it through a large PA system it will suddenly feel like one or several frets are completely "dead", like all the lows are sucked out and you get no sustain whatsoever.

I posted a clips demonstrating dead spots in another thread. Some people seemed to hardly notice the dead spot and this was the absolutely worst dead spot that I could find on ANY of my basses. I suspect people were listening on laptop speakers where the dead spots will be FAR less noticable than if you're listening through better speakers.

Dead spots also tend to be far more noticable when playing with a full band or in the context of a mix because the higher harmoinics that still ring out are masked by other instruments (like guitars). The result will be that certain notes completely disappear in the mix.

I own around 50 basses (and I've owned more over the years). I also work at a guitar workshop where several bass guitar end up on my bench every week. I have yet to play a bass with no dead spots. On some basses they are less problematic than on others but they're still there.

Using composite/graphite rods inside the neck is said to reduce dead spots but I have yet to see a bass with such rods that doesn't have dead spots. I've got several basses with necks of this type and some of them have really bad dead spots.

Sometimes dead spots are centered "between" two frets. In these cases the dead spots are often perceived as less strong but they also affect more frets. When a dead spots is centered exactly on the frequency of a particular note you will get one VERY strong dead spot and almost no effect on adjacent frets. These basses with one very strong dead spot centered exactly on one particular note are the worst IMO (unless that particular note is a note you rarely need to ring out with normal sustain).

I have seen some people I regards as trustworthy claim that some headless basses and/or basses with metal necks don't have dead spots (although I think they should still have theoretical dead spots but perhaps outside the frequency range of bass guitar). I have yet to encounter one of these basses though.

Dead spots are NOT the same as fret buzz, which is caused by worn/uneven frets or poor setup. Dead spots is an inherent issue with all standard electric basses and you can't get rid of it. You can add or remove mass to MOVE the dead spot though. The "Fat Fingers" (Fender used to sell them I think) that clamp onto the headstock will do this and typically move the dead spot 1-2 frets. This can be useful if the dead spot on a particular bass is on a note that you really need to sustain (like on a specific song when playing live or recording) but you WILL get a new dead spots in an nearby fret.

No amount of compression can fix dead spots. You can't bring up the volume of something that isn't there to begin with.

Dead spots can be extremely annoying. I just assembled a Warmoth. J-bass neck with graphite rods, P-bass body. I planned on using it as my touring bass (I wanted certain visual aesthetics that I couldn't find elsewhere for a specific band). It turned out to be an amazing instrument but it's also completely useless to me as it has an extremely severe dead spot on a note I really need to ring out for specific songs we play with that band. When assembling basses from seperate bodies/necks it's lottery. You will never know exactly where the dead spots will occur until the bass is fully assembled. If I buy a new neck I might get a completely different result but at this point I think I'll just use a different bass with this band. It's a great bass and the dead spot isn't really worse than average, just on a note that I REALLY needed to have normal sustain with this particular band. I can probably sell the bass and cover most of my losses but it was still a bit disappointing.

The existence of dead spots is actually a great example of how the neck/body of the instrument affects the vibration of the strings, which seems to be something the tonewood sceptics regard as a myth. "Tone" is not just about warm vs bright but also about sustain and having an even response along the neck. And yes, the wood clearly matters.
I bought a Status with a headed graphite neck in around 2009. It had a couple of dead spots up near the 12th fret (on the D string if I remember correctly). A few years ago I bought a Status with a headless graphite neck. It had a dead spot on the 12th fret of the 12 string. That dead spot was so bad that I returned the bass. I have encountered dead spots on other graphite necks as well - both headed and headless. All of these necks, however, have had truss rods. I suppose it's quite likely that the older, stiffer graphite necks (which didn't have truss rods) would be less prone to dead spots.
 
I bought a Status with a headed graphite neck in around 2009. It had a couple of dead spots up near the 12th fret (on the D string if I remember correctly). A few years ago I bought a Status with a headless graphite neck. It had a dead spot on the 12th fret of the 12 string. That dead spot was so bad that I returned the bass. I have encountered dead spots on other graphite necks as well - both headed and headless. All of these necks, however, have had truss rods. I suppose it's quite likely that the older, stiffer graphite necks (which didn't have truss rods) would be less prone to dead spots.

I've had a few Status Graphites and other basses with graphite necks and I agree that graphite components, as well as headlessness, do not guarantee elimination of dead spots.
 
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Every bass whose neck is made of wood has dead spots. That’s due to physics involving resonance frequencies. If you believe your bass doesn’t have one, it’s because you didn’t look hard.

It's not a phenomenon peculiar to wood. Graphite composites typically have less damping than wood - if a graphite neck has a dead spot, it could be a doozy.
 
What is your setup like? If you have high action and a lot of relief, pretty good chance you'd never notice a dead spot.

Edit to add: Almost all necks have dead spots. The solution for dead spots is a headless neck. Fender figured this out in the 60s-70s. Yes, a Fender headless prototype exists out there.
Straight neck and super low action. Never an issue.
 
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Not positive but in classical guitar they have this thing known as wolf tones.
After reading several responses I'm wondering if a fret leveling job might correct the discrepancy.

Wolf notes are typically associated with bowed instruments. In that situation, if a resonance takes energy for the string rapidly, the continuous energy from the bow replaces it, and you get a "live spot", aka a wolf note.

A dead spot will not be fixed by a fret levelling. The mechanism that makes a dead spot works even without frets.
 
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I discovered that a solution to letting a "dead spot" note ring clearer and sustain better (when holding the note NOT part of a faster moving bass line)...is to press your finger down on the string 2 strings and 2 frets lower (an octave lower). Don't PLAY the lower note, just press your finger down on the fret position 1 octave lower while you play the dead spot note. This will let the string (2 strings lower) ring out sympathetically. I found this out when needing to play ballads and have the dead spot note ring out for a measure or two. The harmonic of the lower string will augment and support the "dead spot" note and you can get much better sustain of that note. Pretty close to having NO dead spot at all!
 
So, because you haven't noticed it, it doesn't exist.
Perhaps you should have your hearing checked by a Professional? ;)
Haha. I’ve been to the audiologist and my hearing is just fine. To be fair, I just asked the question. I never said it didn’t exist. But the more I read, the more I am coming to realize that it is a grossly over exaggerated phenomenon, or at the very least, a misnomer. These ‘dead’ spots seem to be more accurately described as ‘slightly less alive’ spots, which essentially is just how frequencies work.
 
The neck on your bass is resonant. It's made of wood, which has stiffness and mass. Coupled with the geometry of things, that manes that it will resonate in several (not just one) modes. One mode has the entire neck vibrating in the same direction at once. The end of the neck moves more than any other part of the neck - that's what we Physicists call an antinode. If you have a headless bass, the strings are connected to the end of the neck - the open strings are using the end of the neck for one of the two mechanical "grounds" for the vibrating portion of the string (the other is the bridge). If you have a string tuned to the same frequency as that resonant mode, since its end is at an antinode, the energy of the string will dissipate quickly - it won't ring out, it'l be "dead". Most headless necks don't have dead spots at the ned, but I have run into a couple that have, and that dead spot is the worst location - it can be VERY dead.

The other common spot on a neck that tends to be "dead' is on the G string, somewhere around frets 4 to 7. At that point, another vibrational mode (where the neck is moving in two parts) has an antinode. If your neck is tuned to the same frequency as that mode, you have a dead spot.

Truth be told, dead spots are a matter of degree. If you start playing notes on a neck, and timing how long they ring out, you will find that every bass has areas where there is reduced sustain (no, your bass is not immune). If you listen carefully, in those areas, you will hear things like the fundamental of the note going away quicker than the overtones - the note gets thinner sounding over time. Anyway, as I said, it's a matter of degree - how bad does it have to be to call it a dead spot? To some extent, that depends on how much you paid for the bass - people with expensive basses often get a bit defensive if you suggest that their bass has a dead spot (or even an area where the sustain is less). Somehow, they believe that the builder has some magic or their experience has given them some workaround for what is really basic Physics. Sorry, but any builder can make basses with dead spots - the equations that dictate what's going on don't have money as a variable where adding more makes things better.

There is, unfortunately, more bad news - wood ages - over time, it gets lighter, stiffer, and more resonant. That means that you can buy a new bass where you don't perceive any dead spots as objectionable, but...over time your bass can develop a dead spot. It can also go the other way. One of the things that a 50 year old bass has going for it is that the wood has done it's changing - if the thing is till playable, and doesn't have objectionable dead spots, it's probably good for the duration.

Things that can help:

1) Mass loading on the headstock - by adding or subtracting mass from the headstock (heavier or lighter tuners), you can change the resonant frequencies of the neck a bit, sometimes enough to mitigate a dead spot to where it's OK.

2) Retuning - when buying a bass, ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS make sure it's in tune before you evaluate it. You can avoid often dead spots by re-tuning the bass, and if the bass you're trying out isn' t in the tuning you're going to play it in, you're not hearing the true state of the neck as far as dead spots go.

3) Stiffer, heavier necks. Although every P bass neck is not necessarily better than every J bass neck, on the whole, they have less pronounced dead spots on average. For the same reason, most 5 string necks are even less prone to dead spots than even a P neck - The bigger cross section adds mass and stiffness - the impedance of the neck is going the right way. A section of railroad track would make a great bass neck, assuming you're OK with a 200 pound bass and an obscene amount of neck dive - overwhelming the tiny little string with enough mass and stiffness helps keep the energy in the string. I one owned a few aluminum necked Kramers (almost a railroad track) - the sustain on those necks was incredible, though, if you de-tuned the A string a bit, you could actually get a bit of the "headless" whole neck dead spot.

4) Roasted necks. Roasted necks are stiffer, lighter, and more resonant than ones made from unroasted maple. I buy roasted necks, with graphite reinforcement rods, and use Hipshot ultralite tuners - doing those things pushes the resonant frequency of the neck upwards enough that the area where the sustain is reduced is usually pretty well behaved.

So, roasted necks are part of my recipe but.....they have an additional twist - a roasted neck is artificially aged - the resins are crystallized, the neck is as dried out as it's going to get. In short, a roasted neck is NOT going to change - it is a stable thing (which, being made out of wood, is a neat trick). What that means is what you have is what you will have - a roasted neck that doesn't have objectionable dead spots out of the gate is not going to develop them. Of course, if it starts out bad.....If changing the mass loading works to make a roasted neck good enough for you, its a permanent fix, not a band aid for a situation that's going to change.

Now THAT'S the level of explanation I love to read. Enough detail to allow one to think further about the problem. Thank you!
 
Every bass save for something like a Steinberger has it somewhere to some extent. Worst case, the note dies off immediately. Better case, you get a harmonic and maybe lose some sustain. Go up and down the D/G strings in half steps 2-3 seconds per note and you'll find it.
 
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I think it’s because these instruments have so much G string length past the nut across the length of a really long headstock.
I very much doubt that.
I have two Warmoth necks, both are jazz sized slim taper. One is fretted and one fretless and both have a noticeable dead spot at the same place around the 5th fret on the G string..... but the fretted one is a reverse headstock.
I know that's not definitive proof, but it does suggest that other factors are more likely.
 
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All standard electric basses have dead spots. Period!

The theory behing dead spots can be hard to understand (and I'm no expert) but a bit simplified: Dead spots happen because the note you're playing is at a frequency that makes the entire instrument vibrate. All physical objects have a resonant frequency like this. You can't get around the laws of physics. The energy of the vibrating string is transferred to the instrument faster than at other notes/frets. This causes the vibration of the string itself to stop almost instantly. You get poor sustain and a note that dies out almost immediately.

Dead spots may be more difficult to notice if you're playing alone, especially when using a smaller practise amp as some of the higher harmonics will still ring out (while the fundamental dies out almost instantaneously). If you take the same bass and play it through a large PA system it will suddenly feel like one or several frets are completely "dead", like all the lows are sucked out and you get no sustain whatsoever.

I posted a clips demonstrating dead spots in another thread. Some people seemed to hardly notice the dead spot and this was the absolutely worst dead spot that I could find on ANY of my basses. I suspect people were listening on laptop speakers where the dead spots will be FAR less noticable than if you're listening through better speakers.

Dead spots also tend to be far more noticable when playing with a full band or in the context of a mix because the higher harmoinics that still ring out are masked by other instruments (like guitars). The result will be that certain notes completely disappear in the mix.

I own around 50 basses (and I've owned more over the years). I also work at a guitar workshop where several bass guitar end up on my bench every week. I have yet to play a bass with no dead spots. On some basses they are less problematic than on others but they're still there.

Using composite/graphite rods inside the neck is said to reduce dead spots but I have yet to see a bass with such rods that doesn't have dead spots. I've got several basses with necks of this type and some of them have really bad dead spots.

Sometimes dead spots are centered "between" two frets. In these cases the dead spots are often perceived as less strong but they also affect more frets. When a dead spots is centered exactly on the frequency of a particular note you will get one VERY strong dead spot and almost no effect on adjacent frets. These basses with one very strong dead spot centered exactly on one particular note are the worst IMO (unless that particular note is a note you rarely need to ring out with normal sustain).

I have seen some people I regards as trustworthy claim that some headless basses and/or basses with metal necks don't have dead spots (although I think they should still have theoretical dead spots but perhaps outside the frequency range of bass guitar). I have yet to encounter one of these basses though.

Dead spots are NOT the same as fret buzz, which is caused by worn/uneven frets or poor setup. Dead spots is an inherent issue with all standard electric basses and you can't get rid of it. You can add or remove mass to MOVE the dead spot though. The "Fat Fingers" (Fender used to sell them I think) that clamp onto the headstock will do this and typically move the dead spot 1-2 frets. This can be useful if the dead spot on a particular bass is on a note that you really need to sustain (like on a specific song when playing live or recording) but you WILL get a new dead spots in an nearby fret.

No amount of compression can fix dead spots. You can't bring up the volume of something that isn't there to begin with.

Dead spots can be extremely annoying. I just assembled a Warmoth. J-bass neck with graphite rods, P-bass body. I planned on using it as my touring bass (I wanted certain visual aesthetics that I couldn't find elsewhere for a specific band). It turned out to be an amazing instrument but it's also completely useless to me as it has an extremely severe dead spot on a note I really need to ring out for specific songs we play with that band. When assembling basses from seperate bodies/necks it's lottery. You will never know exactly where the dead spots will occur until the bass is fully assembled. If I buy a new neck I might get a completely different result but at this point I think I'll just use a different bass with this band. It's a great bass and the dead spot isn't really worse than average, just on a note that I REALLY needed to have normal sustain with this particular band. I can probably sell the bass and cover most of my losses but it was still a bit disappointing.

The existence of dead spots is actually a great example of how the neck/body of the instrument affects the vibration of the strings, which seems to be something the tonewood sceptics regard as a myth. "Tone" is not just about warm vs bright but also about sustain and having an even response along the neck. And yes, the wood clearly matters.
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