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What Is a Double Stop?
- Thread starter Spector Funk
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O.K. descriptions have been a bit vague so I want to know whether the double stop is just the interval itself or whether it is way that the interval is played as in the right technique.
Cheers.
P.S. Marcus Miller is awesome.
Cheers.
P.S. Marcus Miller is awesome.
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Ok, I'll type slow.
A double stop is two notes played simultaneously.
Hope that clears everything up.
A double stop is two notes played simultaneously.
Hope that clears everything up.
Geez dude. I'm not frickin' ignorant or nothin'. I know its two notes played together I just wanted to know if the way you played them mattered.
ok, ok, my turn 
... a double-stop is TWO notes, played TOGETHER. if you played them singularly, it wouldn't be a double stop. the interval between the two notes doesn't matter, man. sorry if we're coming off as condescending here
... a double-stop is TWO notes, played TOGETHER. if you played them singularly, it wouldn't be a double stop. the interval between the two notes doesn't matter, man. sorry if we're coming off as condescending here Uhm...wouldn't "playing the notes together" tell you how you play them?
It seems perfectly clear to me...
But then again, I heard about double stops here, then my teacher introduced me to double stops, so I actually know what they are. Honestly, I don't think you could've gotten any simpler than Pacman's definition.
Ah well. Just thoughts from me, a...well...read my signature.
A double-stop is two fretted notes. So, if you play two notes simultaneously and one of them is on an open string then, technically, it isn't a double-stop. A 'stop' is the pressing or 'stopping' of a string against the fretboard.
Here is the American Heritage Dictionary definition:
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TRANSITIVE VERB: Inflected forms: dou·ble-·stopped, dou·ble-·stop·ping, dou·ble-·stops
To produce two tones simultaneously on (a stringed instrument) by stopping two strings with one hand while bowing them with the other.
NOUN: also double stop 1. The two tones so produced. 2. The notes indicating these tones.
- Dave
Here is the American Heritage Dictionary definition:
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TRANSITIVE VERB: Inflected forms: dou·ble-·stopped, dou·ble-·stop·ping, dou·ble-·stops
To produce two tones simultaneously on (a stringed instrument) by stopping two strings with one hand while bowing them with the other.
NOUN: also double stop 1. The two tones so produced. 2. The notes indicating these tones.
- Dave
Originally posted by Brad Johnson
Who knew two notes could be so controversial?
(raises hand)
"Me! me! me!"
(gets called on by teacher, brad)
"I knew from my other thread!"
To keep it in chord tones, you might want to say a flatted/minor 11th instead of a major 10th.
And doublestop is perfectly correct. Nobody will going to look at a piece of sheet music and say "Would you like me to accent the interval played harmonically in bar 12?"!
"Interval played harmonically" sounds more like a description of what a doublestop is than what you would call it when communicating with another musician, regardless of how anal they might be about using "proper musical terminology". So I'm with Bruce on this one...what's the point of the comment?
I like Pacman's definition. Harvard's Music Dictionary calls two notes played simultaneously as an "interval," not a chord.
For what it's worth, I'm really a fan of the b5 too.
For what it's worth, I'm really a fan of the b5 too.
In regards to Turoc's reply,common theory states that a triad is a chord with a root,third,and fifth.The exception is when you write a chord in a piece,you don't HAVE to have the third.I was taught that as long as you have the root and fifth,you can throw in whatever you please to the chord.Or leave out whatever you please.Therefore,it is a possibility that you could have a two note chord that would work theoretically.Please correct me if I am wrong.
Correct if i'm wrong here (and probably am, but oh well):
Why do you need the 5th? Answer...you don't!
This is one thing I hate about a lot of teachers, they teach like textbooks. "Chords MUST have soem kind of 1-3-5 in them to be chords, except with sus chords, which must be 1-4-5 (1-2-5 is often left out)!" But they DON'T have to have a 3, a 5, and especially the root. There are plenty of plays who instead of simply playing other tones over the chord root play more complex voicings that leave OUT the root and let your ear fill it in. Granted, that's not an easy thing to pull off well, but I can be done.
Besides, my two favorite chords are built on a 1-b2-6 and 1-b2-b7. Now, you could interpret this as 1-bbb3-##5 or 1-bbb3-###5. Which seems more awkward?
Same thing with an internal b9 (not from the root). VERY taboo in some circles, but used well and in the correct context can be very effective.
Why do you need the 5th? Answer...you don't!
This is one thing I hate about a lot of teachers, they teach like textbooks. "Chords MUST have soem kind of 1-3-5 in them to be chords, except with sus chords, which must be 1-4-5 (1-2-5 is often left out)!" But they DON'T have to have a 3, a 5, and especially the root. There are plenty of plays who instead of simply playing other tones over the chord root play more complex voicings that leave OUT the root and let your ear fill it in. Granted, that's not an easy thing to pull off well, but I can be done.
Besides, my two favorite chords are built on a 1-b2-6 and 1-b2-b7. Now, you could interpret this as 1-bbb3-##5 or 1-bbb3-###5. Which seems more awkward?
Same thing with an internal b9 (not from the root). VERY taboo in some circles, but used well and in the correct context can be very effective.
think ya might be going over some kids' heads with that last post, angus. perhaps a more "accessible" version may be in order ? 
hehe... It seems like he chooses intelligence over legibility.
Perhaps it wouldn't be so bad if you were to either post the *normal* terms, and the *intricate* terms.
Perhaps it wouldn't be so bad if you were to either post the *normal* terms, and the *intricate* terms.
You're wrong. The defination of a chord is... "a combination of three or more tones sounded together in harmony."
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Turock, where are you quoting that from? I've been doing music for a long time, and believe that the phrase "two note chord" is acceptable. Especially for the purposes of this discussion.
Webster's New World Dictionary. While it may be acceptable for purposes of discussion, there is no such thing as a "two note chord".
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