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What is your drummer afflicted with?

What is your drummer afflicted with?

  • Persecution complex

    Votes: 8 4.7%
  • Depression

    Votes: 14 8.2%
  • Megalomania

    Votes: 13 7.6%
  • Bat*#$* insanity

    Votes: 27 15.9%
  • Ours is actually relatively normal and cool

    Votes: 108 63.5%

  • Total voters
    170
"I don't know, Bill Ward could groove like a mother****er when he wanted to. I think his crazy jazz fills made the songs better."
Yes, he could! He once said that keeping time was NOT (to him) as important as "moving the song along" in an old interview I watched back in the eighties. That's where I was going.....
Josh
 
After we fired that drummer we auditioned a guy who had just moved out here from NYC. He was from a "show biz" family - both his parents worked on Broadway tho not as musicians. Very professional with totally solid time and tastefullness, no weirdness whatsoever. But the best thing about him was that he really understood the meaning of "group", he played for the betterment of the entire group, not for just himself. Because of that attitude his playing had the effect of raising the abililty of everyone else - we all played better because of him, especially me.

Unfortunately he decided to play jazz instead of rock :( but I'll never forget his drumming. It has become my standard for a good drummer.
 
Drummer I play with has toned it down and now is just a phenomenal drummer. Amazing groove and a super huge, but not too huge, concert sound.

This guy will be touring with some big acts in the next few years. Hopefully he'll take me with him.

FWIW, we play mostly R&B, smooth jazz, dance, funk, etc...
 
Short man complex. Just a macho little dude. Incredible drummer but always bored. He got bored with the set we were playing but only played drums and couldn't bring any new ideas for songs and always acted irritated if we didn't have 20 new songs every other practice. Cheap as hell about buying anything or chipping in for anything that might benefit the band. That had a bit to do with wife approval factor but I always felt that he was just cheap. He also got real cranky when he ran out of pot. Loved his powerful and complex drumming but I don't really miss too much else about him. Man, that felt good to vent!:)
 
Mine has a girlfriend that treats him like crap and runs his life, yet he wont leave her. If she doesn't like the music, the band or somebody in the band she gives him the option of "Me or him/them?" And he always chooses her.
 
Whoa. You know him?

I mean, flat-out weird doesn't even begin to cover it. As a drummer, do you or any other drummers you know agree with the statement: "Cymbals are basically effects... they have the same purpose as guitar effects?"

And do you use the ride bell to accent the offbeats on almost every freaking song?

My drummer thinks so. He uses a Zildjian Avedish ride which is old as hell (no lettering, only the engraved logo left on it) and some paiste hihat. And he's really good at keeping tempo and real fun to play with.
 
I cannot figure out why our leader insists on keeping our present drummer.

He's an alcoholic who seems to go into a trance-like state when he's playing; unfortunately, while in these trances, his ability to listen vanishes: he plays through stops, misses rhythmic cues, fails to reduce his volume when we switch from solos to vocals, etc.

Additionally, he is rhythmically challenged: after three months of rehearsal, he remains incapable of playing the opening beats of "Smooth" in meter (seems to be challenged by Latin material in general), loses his place during solos, and his fills are often out of time. Color me frustrated :bawl:

Our leader's solution: he's asked the drummer to limit his kit to a bass drum, snare, high-hat, and a single ride cymbal, and he's asked him to use brushes, playing with sticks only when instructed to do so.
 
Our drummer evidently thinks an increase in tempo = an increase in volume. Funny how those little habits seem to stick with one no matter how many times they are reminded.
He is talented though.

While we're on the subject of drummers, I'd like to see a thread on who is the best drummer you ever gigged with.
Oh yeah, this is a bass forum. Oh well, anyway, just a thought.
 
"I don't know, Bill Ward could groove like a mother****er when he wanted to. I think his crazy jazz fills made the songs better."
Yes, he could! He once said that keeping time was NOT (to him) as important as "moving the song along" in an old interview I watched back in the eighties. That's where I was going.....
Josh

Sorry for the confusion.
 
ours has bad practice habits - he sort of fakes it. If it's a song he knows well (classic rock standards), he'll do ok. If it's modern, he learns it sloppy. He also has a problem with speed. We do some too fast, some too slow. Plus, he has a bad attitude and takes no criticism or direction.

on the positive side, people seem to like us and we've had a lot of repeat bookings. go figure.

unfortunately, he owns the PA and we practice at his house, and he is joined at the hip with the guitarist.

so I have to either accept the situation or move on.

I'm on the fence.
 
One of my drummers said this just the other day, "If a drummer plays a steady beat for too long, he will lose timing, so he has to play a fill to get back on time".

I rolled my eyes so far back they almost got stuck.

My major gripes with him are Neal Pert fills in every song, big loud flashy drum endings to every song, and not really learning the covers but instead just playing whatever feels good to him for what the band is playing. Sometimes I feel like his personal drum kareoke band.
 
Interesting thread for a drummer to read. I've been doing a gig where I'm basically the 'house' drummer and playing with an assortment of bassists and keyboardists. I love the variety, but some of the people are as strange as the drummers you guys have described.

One bassist, who's worked with some very big names in the past, came in with a big sack of attitude. When the singer deviated from the chart, something that happens way too often, he'd just quit playing, forcing the keyboardist to cover until he decided to start playing again. He complained all night long about various aspects of the gig, but wasn't shy about ordering the most expensive thing on the menu (we get paid and fed) and taking half of it home. Won't be calling him back.

A keyboardist I'd worked with before in other situations admitted that he hadn't done a small group thing in a long time. He'd mostly been doing solo things. The bassist and I were going crazy all night long trying to keep up with the dropped and added beats and undocumented changes to the charts. In addition, he played so much that there was almost no space left in the music even for a drum part. Although he'd insert a bass solo in almost everything, drum solos, or even trading of fours, were extremely rare, and I couldn't get his attention to ask for one. When I finally did get a solo, on "St. Thomas," he insisted on playing the head behind me. To cap things, three days after the gig he called the singer who'd booked him claiming that he'd been promised more money than he got (wrong!) and that he deserved it anyway because of all the stuff he had to bring to the gig.

I occasionally sub with a rock trio where the other two guys, one of whom is diabetic, drink to excess all night. As the night wears on they argue onstage with each other over who's going to sing the next song, what key it's in, etc. On breaks, the bassist keeps asking why a jazz drummer would play with the likes of them (for the paycheck, pal). He was wounded and partially disabled in Vietnam, and likes to wear camouflage pants and a black beret to gigs, and warns you not to sneak up on him. The guitarist, in the meantime, likes to tell me how he rejected jazz for rock and denies any jazz influences in his playing, even though they're obvious to anyone with an ear.

My other favorites are the people, both singers and musicians, who memorize all the drum kicks in songs and insist that I learn them all exactly, even though they play their own parts with minimal competence or reference to the original. Dave Matthews Band cultists are the worst, but a singer in my church band gives them a run.

Unattractive personality traits are not exclusive to drummers.
 

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