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What "Keep It Simple" Really Means

So I've picked up what I feel are some pretty formidable bass chops after only being seriously at it (read: playing every day, playing in bands, and falling head-over-heels for bass in general!) for a little less than a year. Despite my very fast (and fun!) progress, it amuses me to find that I'm still kinda hitting all the silly little phases of learning this instrument inside out. For example, lately I've been in my "I know how to slap so now I'm going to study Level 42 obsessively" phase. This has also coincided with my "I need to learn to play disco and play as many notes as possible because Bernard Edwards is awesome" phase. I'm being overly simplistic and making fun of myself, but you get the idea!

As a result, my playing in the band has gotten a little busier with more slapping and popping. Today, the lead singer approached me via Facebook Chat about laying back a little more and simplifying.

You know those defining moments when you see the path in front of you split off...and whichever way you choose, it all comes down to how you react to someone else's opinion (or criticism)? Like when your boss has a talk with you at work about your performance...or when your significant other has a Talk with you...and you find yourself having to really think about how to respond. Well, this was one of those moments. He caught me on a bit of an off day, having had a rough night with too much coffee and not enough sleep. So my first impulse was to defend my playing and to defend my ability (and therefore, I falsely assumed, my "right") to play what I wanted. To fight him on it a bit.

But then I scrolled up and read what I wrote and realized that I sounded like a spoiled little bass snob kid...not like a professional musician. I mean, I didn't jump down his throat, but I basically got into the semantics of what it means to "keep it simple" and what I would and would not do.

Until I pictured myself sitting in my room for the rest of my life playing along to "I Want Your Love" and wondering why I wasn't getting gigs. So I asked if he had any examples of what he meant. He sent me some links of songs to illustrate what he was talking about...and because I didn't want this whole thing to crash around my ears, I decided to shut up and listen.

And suddenly, I just had this moment where I truly understood how it's possible to keep it simple but still have a definitive groove, a way to make people dance. He referenced Talking Heads and James Brown and I just kinda went, "...OH! YEAH!" because for a split second I thought he meant he just wanted me to stand in the back like an idiot and play whole notes. And I was like, ":hmm:"

But once I used my ears without letting my pride interfere, I understood what he meant: I wasn't letting the music breathe enough. Or to quote "Amadeus": "Too many notes!" Just because I CAN play all those notes, doesn't mean I SHOULD. It sounds so simple and obvious, but it can be astonishingly difficult to get that perspective when you're the one playing and you can't really step back and listen from an objective viewpoint.

So, I took some notes out! And then, something amazing happened as I was playing along to Talking Heads; I could hear the band. I could hear what I was playing, and how it integrated into the structure of the song, but I could also hear everyone else. I could hear the spaces BETWEEN the notes...not just the notes themselves. That was when I truly understood my role as a bass player...what it really means to hold down the groove without getting all tangled up on the neck.

Given how sleep-deprived I am, I might be doing a bad job of explaining this, but I guess I finally reached the path where I either can accept that "less is sometimes more" or I can sit in my room playing disco and getting, like, old and bitter. :D In case you're curious, I'm choosing the former, as I'm sure it will allow me to grow as a musician and it will probably get me more work! So, that was my little- or big, really!- epiphany. I'm really excited for tonight's rehearsal...because I can't wait to hear what everyone else is playing!
 
Interesting question. I'm not sure what it really means, though I do seem to be pretty good at it. To take it to an extreme, try joining a band where you're replacing a didgeridoo player, especially if you play DB and have decent arco skills.

I've said before that I approach playing bass like a civil engineer designing a bridge - I'm trying to make a structure that's as strong as possible while avoiding any obviously ugly or awkward solutions. Sometimes I'm trying to arrange a part and think something like "nah, that will be noticeably different than the previous three measures, better play the whole thing differently so I can avoid that bit that would really stick out". Or take a a song like the Cranberries' "Zombie". Playing the right notes is easy, but should the refrain be a bit louder? Yeah, probably. Should the verses be a bit more staccato than the refrain? Now that's a harder question.

Though when I'm playing a style where the bass is expected to provide variety that's not "structurally" necessary, like jazz or traditional reggae, I tend to have a difficult time with it and get irritated because can't get away with repeating the same thing, like a civil engineer who's asked to make each pillar of that bridge look a little different than the others for no reason other than variety.
 
It's a phase all bassists go through i think. You try to keep up with the guitar and play fancy and as much as you can and then you peak and hit an epiphany. For me, I listened to elephant and realized how good it was....but it was so easy. Hardest button to button is the first song i learned to play on bass and ironically it took me years to reach that level again.
 
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If you can't funk it with 1 note, you probably won't be able to do it with 10. If you can't drive a Rock tune with 3 notes, you probably won't be able to with 30.

Sometimes, as musicians we get so focused on the melodic and harmonic complexity of music, we forget how much you can do with just the rhythm. Even if all you are doing is playing the root note, by varying it rhythmically you can do so many different tempos and feels from it. Play it in straight eighths, it's Rock. Do it faster, and you get Metal and Punk. Do it even faster, and you get Grindcore. Syncopate it, and you have funk. Swing it a little and you have Blues. Play it in 3and you have a Waltz. Play it with a 2 feel, and it's Country. Play it in 13/5 and it's Math Rock. Play it in quarters, and it's House or Industrial. All this from one note and different rhythms.

Now add in other instruments, and you can let them add to your simplicity to create cool things harmonically. You can play a single note or run, but depending on the chords being played by the other instruments they can add tension, movement, release, etc. even though you are playing the same thing.

There's lots of cool complexities to music that you can discover by just playing simpler.
 
Victor Wooten's philosophy on this, in his Groove Workshop dvd, is that music is a conversation. He had an issue with a talented drummer he was working with during a gig who kept playing over everyone. Paraphrased, he was basically saying that if one person is dominating the talking all the time, then it ceases to be an conversation. I like this example because it doesn't discriminate by instrument. There's plenty of people who want to stick the bassist in the box so they can get their 10 solos in every song...the same rule applies to them, that is not a conversation at all.
 
Given how sleep-deprived I am, I might be doing a bad job of explaining this, but I guess I finally reached the path where I either can accept that "less is sometimes more" or I can sit in my room playing disco and getting, like, old and bitter. :D In case you're curious, I'm choosing the former, as I'm sure it will allow me to grow as a musician and it will probably get me more work! So, that was my little- or big, really!- epiphany. I'm really excited for tonight's rehearsal...because I can't wait to hear what everyone else is playing!

Congratulations, Grasshopper... :p

Now, see if you can snatch the pebble from my hand... :smug:

MM
 
This thread reminds of when I first learned how to tap at decent speeds. I was playing in a thrash metal band at the time and was only about 16, when we were writing I would try and put these tapped arpeggios over EVERYTHING, literally any time where there was a chord progression I tried tapping arpeggios below it.

It's something everyone goes through I think, only once you've been through it can you realise what being a bass player is all about! lol
 
It's funny how many bassists come about this revelation. I have never had this issue! My learning years included listening to and playing along to records. If you really listen to what's going on, you will find mostly simplistic playing. Overplaying seems to be a 'new' thing! Back in the day we 'oldschoolers' always played what the song needed! Nothing more and nothing less!

I find the biggest issue with many, amatuer and weekend warrior, bands is that no one listens to each other. Everyone is in their own little world doing whatever they want in the name of 'creativity'! So now the music sounds so frikkin' cluttered and grooveless. Remember, it's a band! Work together and listen to each other!

Lastly, how do you think a cat like Nathan East got to play on so many records dating back to the 70's?? By playing what the song calls for! No more and no less!
 
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Back in the day I played with a guitarist who loved pinch harmonics. Loooooooooved them. He was good at it too, could probably play an entire song with nothing but. And often did pretty much just that. Sounded terrible. He was operating under the assumption that if one is good, then 100 is great. And it was really annoying. But he just couldn't get it through his head that that "really cool thing" stops being cool when you hear it every other note. It's only cool when you do it once, in exactly the right spot.

Same with bass. That blistering run is so much more effective if you've spent the rest of the song holding down a solid groove. If the whole song is a chops fest it stops being impressive.
 
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