Don't tell me that...now I'll be buying one and I don't need to buy any more crap!
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What mic do you use?
- Thread starter Nedmundo
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Have you tried any of the common methods employed for acoustic guitars?
What kind of tone are you looking for?
How many strings is it?
Does it have a pickup?
I have a fretted Furch ABG strung with TI Acousticores.
In the order of your questions:
-No, not yet.
-The acoustic sound of the bass is really good. If possible, maybe making it sound more like an upright bass would have been welcome.
-4 strings
- Yes: Fishman Acoustic Matrix Natural II
quality di straight to the desk/preI have a fretted Furch ABG strung with TI Acousticores.
In the order of your questions:
-No, not yet.
-The acoustic sound of the bass is really good. If possible, maybe making it sound more like an upright bass would have been welcome.
-4 strings
- Yes: Fishman Acoustic Matrix Natural II
one quality mic (large diaphragm condenser or dynamic) placed about a foot out from the rear of the body, addressing the area below the bridge
(for body, lows) and one small diaphragm condenser, also about a foot from the instrument, addressing the area where the neck meets the body, above the sound hole (for articulation)
and/or:
add one more large diaphragm condenser, directly overhead, at least 3 feet from the instrument/ other mics.
and/or:
add one more large diaphragm condenser, at least 3 feet away from the close mics, addressing the guitar from the front.
you could use all or one of these mic positions with or without the di signal, depending on how it ends up sounding.
you will need to phase check: adjust mic patterns/ proximity...
the final sound of the mics, especially the "room" or distance mics, is going to depend greatly on the acoustic environment. for example, if you want more attack, playing near hard surfaces can help...i've added wood surfaces behind mics to get a bit of first reflection back to the mic. if the room is boomy or has standing waves, you might have to deal with that (changing position, baffling).
for a more upright sound, it's going to be mostly in your approach to playing the instrument (muting, playing clean fingerstyle, or with the thumb).
you also might take 1 large diaphragm condenser, set omni,
and face a corner with the mic in the corner (like robert johnson recordings).
you could also try ribbon/ dynamic mics for any of this.
these techniques have worked for me in the past, but
all or none of this may work for your scenario.... ymmv.
my .02
cheers
Shure Beta52A and a DI out going from your amp into a desk.
never heard anything better, you get the thump picked up from the mic and the glistening highs from the DI - Perfect!
never heard anything better, you get the thump picked up from the mic and the glistening highs from the DI - Perfect!
My all-time personal favorite on bass cabs is Sennheiser's MD-421. I love the sound of it! Make your bass sound so smooth...
Ya, that's quite a good mic for bass cabs, and I'm not much of a fan of Sennheisers, either (hate their vocal mics with a passion).
yea, i normally run 421, subkick and either my bluebird or my ribbon mic if the room sounds nice and i want some air.
subkick!
i've never tried one on bass... (but have wired/ hung my own speaker on kicks and in front of bass cabs before)..
have used them on kick drum with nice results.
any more details/ info you can provide on how it responds to bass?
been meaning to pick up one of these for my own...
i've never tried one on bass... (but have wired/ hung my own speaker on kicks and in front of bass cabs before)..
have used them on kick drum with nice results.
any more details/ info you can provide on how it responds to bass?
been meaning to pick up one of these for my own...
john turner
You don't want to do that. Trust me.
i use an re27 on my 4x12 cab about 6 inches from one of the cones, and the ubiquitous d112 on my sub, about 3 feet from the grille, give or take.
in my experience the d112 is good for low frequencies, but they certainly do not make my sub sound like the bass drums on my drummer's kit. shoot, both of his bass drums (a 20" and a 22") have d112's on em, and they both sound -substantially- different. massively different. my sub doesn't end up sounding even remotely like either. that's just my experience though.
in my experience the d112 is good for low frequencies, but they certainly do not make my sub sound like the bass drums on my drummer's kit. shoot, both of his bass drums (a 20" and a 22") have d112's on em, and they both sound -substantially- different. massively different. my sub doesn't end up sounding even remotely like either. that's just my experience though.
oh.. well i made my own. screw buying one from yamaha.. i made mine for under 50 bucks.
the size of speaker, sensitivity and all that makes a difference in the response. mine is generally around 200 hz and down. not really good for anything but an effect. slip it in under the track if i want to move some asses. maybe a bass drop. it gets mixed out mostly.. just throw it up for S & G's.
could very well make up for the low end loss on a 57 or something.
I don't really want to continue an old conversation, but I feel compelled to say this JUST ISN'T TRUE. Yes, the D112 has a pretty irregular frequency response. But the sound coming out of a bass amp isn't exactly the same as a kick drum. And let's not forget about the additional equalisation that is being done one the console.
The FACT is, if the bass is indistinct, it's either the player's fault (poor tone or technique) or a sub-par soundguy. 99 times out of a hundred, it's not the mic.
Yeah, I suck. What can I tell you? I don't like kick mics on my bass cabs. They sound scooped to me. If you like them, fine. Sorry I offended you.
right on, same thing i've done, usually using a direct box between speaker and pre... not sure what the impedence rating ends up as, i'm thinking maybe 400.
i've used 10" and 12" speakers for this with nice results. definitely sub oriented.
i've used the yamaha on kick only, it is designed well and gives a nice, normal signal strength to the pre....
i never bothered with any of that.. just a speaker with an XLR hanging of. right into my mic pre and away i go. never bothered with impedance.. cause its just low noise. not that crucial.
