What Pickup is this at the Neck?

[kath]

Well i been looking at some pearl jam concert videos and found Jeff Ament's weird pickup after the Bartolini Neck J Pup .

Here is a picture :

What pickup is that? Its a bartolini for sure , but never seen one on their website that looks like that , neither it looks like a Bartolini MM Pickup , but it does look like those Bartolini Humbucking pickups for strats. As far as my knowledge goes , it does resemble like a EB-1 Pickup , maybe those Dark Star Hagstrom Pickups.

His tone is pretty neat with those . Does anyone know , what pickup are those?

 

[Ric5]

Dimarzio model one

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[line6man]

What makes you so certain that it is a Bartolini?
Did you read about it somewhere or something?

And yeah, looks like a Model 1 to me.

 

[SGD Lutherie]

It's a Model One.

 

[kath]

What makes you so certain that it is a Bartolini?
Did you read about it somewhere or something?

And yeah, looks like a Model 1 to me.

Here are additional pictures :

The pickup says bartolini , right? or my minds playing tricks on me xD

 

[SGD Lutherie]

Wow! I guess he had a model one on there and then had Bartolini make a custom replacement.

 

[line6man]

Here are additional pictures :

The pickup says bartolini , right? or my minds playing tricks on me xD

Ok, nevermind on the Model 1 then.

What are the 5 pots?
Those look like passive basses, in which case, a VVVTT setup wouldn't make a whole lot of sense.

 

[kath]

hmm , i am pretty sure its a passive bass. And i am beginning to think its either a Dark Star DS-3N or a Model One in a bartolini Casing. I don't think Bartolini makes those humbuckers

i think the whole setup would be dual parallel/series switching with "in phase" with that bartolini/ Model one humbucker (2 vol, 1 tone).

 

[SGD Lutherie]

hmm , i am pretty sure its a passive bass. And i am beginning to think its either a Dark Star DS-3N or a Model One in a bartolini Casing. I don't think Bartolini makes those humbuckers

Where would he get a Bartolini casing for a pickup that Bartolini doesn't make???

And why would he bother to do that?

He's a big star, and I'm sure he had Bartolini custom make that pickup.

Even you can get Bartolini to custom make a pickup, if you are patient.

i think the whole setup would be dual parallel/series switching with "in phase" with that bartolini/ Model one humbucker (2 vol, 1 tone).

Where's the switches? I see two stacked controls and a single control.

 

[walterw]

i would guess something silly like normal stacked-knob jazz bass wiring, then another volume knob for the mudbucker.

 

[line6man]

i would guess something silly like normal stacked-knob jazz bass wiring, then another volume knob for the mudbucker.

Yes, that is what I had assumed as well, but how useless with the tone interactions for three pickups instead of just two.

*Wild idea to ponder*

This is going to sound crazy, but perhaps maybe it's a VVVT setup with an additional master volume?

 

[Darkstrike]

Any chance the seperate knob is a rotary switch?

 

[mikezimmerman]

I've read elsewhere that the Jazzes (at least one of them) started out a stack-knob Jazz replicas, so my guess would be that the stacked knobs are V/T for the two J pickups, and the single knob is a volume for the neck pickup.

 

[SGD Lutherie]

He has the same neck pickup on this custom Modulus Silvertone copy:

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[Ric5]

Here are additional pictures :

The pickup says bartolini , right? or my minds playing tricks on me xD

OK I was wrong on the Model one. But those pictures there look like a Bartolini guitar pickup. Notice how the neck pickup is about 1/4" narrower than the jazz pickups.

 

[kath]

Found another picture , this was his "yellow" modulus from way back , during the 1998 Circa or so

That does look like a Model One or a Gibson EB-1 Pickup at the extreme neck position.

@SGD : My bad , i overlooked the switches. There are none on the bass itself

I found this webpage which shows a bass modification involving 2 jazz pups and a humbucker .

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[slowburnaz]

I would imagine it's a V, V/T, V/T setup.

 

[SGD Lutherie]

That does look like a Model One or a Gibson EB-1 Pickup at the extreme neck position.

No it's still the custom Bartolini. You can see the logo. Model 1s and EB-1 pickups have pole screws.

Easiest way to find out would be to contact Modulus or Bartolini.

I found another bass of his with the same three pickups.

 

[kath]

E-mailed bartolini , they did not disclose any details . and modulus claims they only provide a "custom neck" for jeff's basses and also said the headstock of the modulus neck was according to his specifications ( his basses have fender jazz style headstock not the original genesis headstock ) , they also say the bass body and and the electronics was set up by Mike Lull . However i was browsing through the SGD luthiere website and found this

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its probably the same dimension of the Pup at the extreme neck position in jeff's modulus . and woah the SGD sidewinder SW4-HB , has a fat and meaty tone.

 

[Ric5]

I still think it is a Bart Guitar humbucker.