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What Should I Do With My Life?

Can't say I've exactly "made it", but I know several folks who have (personally) and I have some prospects on the horizon. I also talked with my bass teacher (Andrew Pouska) about this extensively...

The first thing to get in your head is the idea that this can be formulated is highly unlikely. It's sort of like asking "How am I going to find my spouse?" For me, people could say "Go meet girls" which is like telling you "Go play music". There is no one size fits all recipe for success, however you define that, which will get you in. It's going to vary from person to person, it will have to be a mix or luck and hard work to some degree. With that in mind, I'll go onto the rest.

- What is success? Whatever would, or could, make you happy is what you need to shoot for. If you want to be a singer/songwriter, then work on that. If you want to be a backing bassist, work on your chops/flexibility and focus on that. Don't tell yourself "I want to be a famous virtuoso, better go out and become a roadie." If you're exercising your body to be an effective roadie, you might not be prepared to shine on bass when the time is right, losing your opportunity. Not to say some roadies can't, but the odds aren't too high. Get into the studio game if you want to do production, but don't think that getting an audio engineering degree will make you the next Les Claypool, you'd need to focus on your playing in that situation.

- Work/life balance is KEY. You gotta pay the bills, but you need to be ready to live within your means and do so responsibly. You may room with some buddies, live in a mobile home, or move in with a sig. other but you need to get as many obstacles out of the way from you pursuing music while being fiscally responsible. Contrary to what some folks believe, you don't magically get handed $100k for getting into a cool band, many of those guys have to teach lessons or something else in order to sustain a living outside touring. With that in mind, don't work a job that completely saps the hell out of you and takes up all your time. I have weekends free but my job is incredibly stressful, I can definitely feel the changes at my job affecting my music life. I may need to look elsewhere for something that doesn't conflict so hard with my band life. I am also learning to lower my debt and cost of living to accommodate this. The sooner you learn those two things, the easier life in general will be


- Network network network. It's like looking for a job, the more resumes you put out the more responses you will get. Have the discernment to know what's good and what's not, which may come from some hard knocks and tough lessons, but the experience is what's key here. Playing in three different P&W bands wasn't a fun experience (kinda disliked it), but my current gig with Mike was possible because of those experiences. The other musicians I'm working with understand these things and have similar experience, so it's helpful. I've had calls from past bandmates and I've called past bandmates for different things...make friend and connections, you never know what will pay off.


- Be flexible!! Unless you want to be a studio ace, you don't have to master every style there is, however knowing the fundamentals and key techniques can impress or at least prepare you for them. This is kind of related to music theory (I guess). I've impressed more bands/musicians with being able to play several different styles as opposed to playing one style super fast. Being able to go from blues, to metal, to country, to funk, and then alternative rock will speak more about you than playing super fast metal speed runs....unless you want to play exclusively in metal bands and nothing else.



Keep your head up and do what you love, you don't have to go to college for this stuff (unless you want to go the super famous producer audio engineer route), especially if you just want to play in bands. Just like some folks meet their mates in a bar or some doing laundry at their apartment complex, all you can do is be available and see what happens. Work your butt off when you see an opening though, it may be the one you need to break out!!
 
Whatever you do, do something. Don't waste your time. Put yourself in a position to develop meaningful relationships. Develop new skills and build on the old ones. Cultivate as many happy accidents as you can. Don't get in debt or waste money on stupid things. Have fun. Become well read. Be a serious person and make things happen in your life.
 
Music is a crazy tough business. Always keep learning on your bass, but realize that once you reach a certain level of competency, it doesn't matter how crazy good you are. If matters who you know and if you are in the right place at the right time. Networking matters. The best drummer I ever saw (bar none!) was a friend's brother and he was playing in dives in the LA area getting about $50 a night because there was a plethora of good musicians in LA in the mid-70's.

I was actually in the right place once, but evidently it wasn't the right time. I had just come off of three years on the road, was living in LA and managed to procure an audition to play bass for Loggins & Messina because their bass player was leaving. I considered myself a better bass player than theirs at the time (a little arrogance is a good thing, but you better be able to back it up), knew a lot of their songs and was really excited because I thought I had a good chance. A week before my audition, their bass player decided to stay with them "a few more years", so my opportunity evaporated. That's not unusual. One constant in the music business is change. Just keep at it.

Not long after that got a chance to record some demos for ATCO in a weekend group I was playing with. Our guitar player had written a couple of great songs. Unfortunately, he was not a great vocalist but since he wrote the songs, he sang them...BIG mistake. The other guitar player, the drummer, and myself all had far better voices and either the drummer or I should have handled the lead vocals. Answer from ATCO was that they thought the songs had great potential and the harmonies and instrumentals were great, but the lead vocals were substandard. They thought they might have someone else record those songs (good for the writer, no so good for the rest of us). So if you get the opportunities, be smart and don't let you or one of your band mate's egos ruin it for you. Always keep in mind, "what delivers the best sound?" and do that. The music is the most important thing, not someone's pride.
 
Forward progress! No matter what, do something - keep moving, learning, etc. Sitting around the house deciding what to do is useful, but won't get you opportunities. Being out in the world, interacting with people - that gets you places. I have a nephew that was working in a restaurant, loking for "real employement in his field, and saw someone with a t shirt that worked at a place (turns out he owned the company) that fit what he'd learned in college. My hephew went up to him, introduced himself, and long story short, got a "real" job that way. In addition to networking, being out in teh world, you will learn what you don't want to do and/or aren't good at. Pruing that stuff off your list helps you hone in on what you want to and can do.

If you really want to be a musician, be one. Practice 'til your fingers bleed (or close). Bass is a great instrument - the demand in a lot of places for bassists is greater than the number of good bassists. I have an app on my phone that transposes things - I need it for some of the gigs I do, as people are all the time changing keys on me. You can use things like that to sharpen your skills.

People hire you for two reasons:

1) It's something they don't want to do. Usually, these are jobs you don't want.

2) It's something they can't do. This is where you want to be. Be good enough at your instrument that they can't do it. You need to be better than the guitarist who can pick up a bass and kinda play. You need to be able to really play.
 
There's a lot of good information in this thread I can't add much, but I have managed to create something bigger than myself, and that's really what many people are really after.

There are two types of people, the talkers and the doers.

Decide which one you want to be.

Then decide to take 100% responsibility for yourself and your life.

The rest will come easier if you do these two things first.
 
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Remember that education is never a bad thing, either though, because it opens doors that you many never expect. I went into mechanical engineering wanting to get into alternative energy, and found that I was really struggling with Calculus, which was causing difficulties with pretty much everything else in engineering. I had to work my @$$ off to master calculus but I wanted it bad enough, so I put in the work to achieve it. Fast forward a few years later, and I end up in manufacturing, working a dream job in a fabrication plant - it is really hands on and engaging, and I love it. If you find a program that you really want to get into, but your marks are not there, do what you have to do, whether it is finding a tutor, friend etc, that can help you master the material. Just in general, you need to be relentless. Put yourself out there to find opportunities, but don't necessarily take the first one that comes along. Be selective and have standards, don't waste your time with a band or situation that is not right for you, unless you can clearly see that it is a stepping stone to something better.

All the best!
 
If you want a career in music, I would put marriage and children on the back burner. This business is tough enough without all that. As far as the military, talk to some people that served and are out now. Our government does not take care of those that served. Just my .02..
 
It's so hard to give a short response, you are living on the long end of life and I remember how then everything was so exciting and possible.
So, here's a short view of my fairly interesting but not entrepreneurial life...
I was offered a job in a band in a big city by the guitarist/songwriter. I passed because it was too far from home. He went on to write several new wave hits in the 80's and now lives comfortably with his own established studio. Do I regret it? No. Some of my fellow musician friends are gone now due to excessive living. Sometimes success is a dream, sometimes a nightmare.
Went to college, dropped out because of expense. Joined the army. Ended up in a USO band! It was one of the most exciting times in my life.
Stay out of bar bands at your age, look for original writers and bands with charisma. Don't let them charm you or wow you, get second opinions especially from the ladies. They'll tell you if the band has that spark.
You can go to lynda.com and learn computer graphic skills. Or computer programming skills. It's free! Go to youtube to learn graphics or arts. Surprising how much you can learn for free online.
Learn a trade in the art field that's sellable if you wish to do art.
Join the military with a guarantee to only play music. If you are a high school grad with a good record, you can ask that.
Or join the military and get a guarantee to get a job in the arts. They exist.
I hope I haven't offended anyone. Just from my experience.
Good luck and Godspeed.
 
If I had those answers would a be angrily posting on a bass players forum all day when I should be working.
There ain't no right way or wrong way.
Schooling seems like it is getting more and more necessary despite becoming a cancer in your wallet. Don't know what to tell you there. What I can tell you is that I slacked away most of my 20s and only ended up with an AA in programming. The results have been iffy at best (see first statement.)
As a musician I would be wary of telling anyone to get into the music biz, let alone drop thousands of dollars on it. Now sound engineering can be used for more than just music, and THAT is something you can think about. Every band in the world now has a digital interface, software, and an internet connection. Recording studio engineers are not in high demand. Plus you have to listen to other people's crappy music and not say anything.
Normally I would steer anyone away from "the arts" because everyone steals anything that isn't figuratively bolted down in some kind of analogue medium. There is no value to it because entertainment anymore. However, being an office cog sucks donkey schlong.
I guess what I'm saying is that you can't "win" this thing. Its a submission match everyone loses. Find a way to make your brief time liveable and chalk each sunrise up as a victory.
Oh- Beer, Scotch, and pot. Definitely do some of that with your life. Lay some pipe while you are at it too; preferably with tandem with one of the previous three.
 
I few years ago I was your shoes. I took two years off of school after high school and worked. I didn't get good grades in high school. Finally, I started at my local community college which was inexpensive enough that federal financial aid paid for me to go to school. (as a matter of fact, I even kept a little pocket change.) I was able to hone my skills enough in that time I spent in the music program at my community college that I am now receiving a partial scholarship to Berklee. (I almost did not even audition for Berklee because I had your same mindset about school being too expensive)

I would suggest checking out your local community college, or at least a state school at first. (private school is very expensive unless you get a scholarship) Chances are you can go for free, worst case scenario you pay a little money, but not too much. Do your general education/liberal arts courses while also seeing what's up in the music department. Whether or not you ultimately decide to pursue music as a career or not is up to you, but at least you'll be headed in the right direction, and your gen ed courses can count to just about anything you'd want to pursue anyway. Everything is a stepping stone and I'm glad I took the steps I did, even if I was doubtful about some of them at the time. Best of luck to you, hope I was able to help.
 
I was not ready for college after high school. After a year or so of milling around I joined the Army. It gave me some time to grow up and also a way to pay for college.

I worked in journalism as a writer and photographer. I hung out with a lot of the band guys, we went to the many of the same events, and we were just generally part of the nerd herd.

From hanging out with them I know you have to be able to sight read, audition, and play a marching band instrument. I was good friends with the piano player but he played the bass drum in the marching band. Military bands have all sorts of smaller bands to preform at various functions and need bass players. Where I was stationed they had a jazz band, Dixieland band, rock band and other quartets, quintets and what not.

There are other artistic avenues with the military. Print or broadcast journalism, graphic artist, or combat camera. Or you could learn a trade like welding, construction, or mechanical. Then there is combat arms where you do cool stuff, but that does not transfer over to the civilian side well.

I used the G.I. Bill to go to school and played in a band most of the time. I did not have to work and had a different but great college experience.

The military is a mixed bag. Parts of it are great and parts of it suck big time. Choose a job you love in the military. So many other aspects of that life are hard, but if you at least like what you do it makes it easier. As much as I hated being in the Army it made me the person I am today.

If the military is not your bag I would say a trade school. Shorter than college with competitive pay and you can still persue music.
 
I know this sounds like an extremely in-depth question to put on these forums but I really don't know who else to go to. I obviously love to play bass and just create art in general. But I have no idea what to do after high school. I would love to work in a recording studio, maybe even be a producer. I was looking into studying audio production and music but all art schools are extremely expensive. If I were to continue my schooling I'd only want to go to an art school. Even if I wanted to go to a regular college I don't have the grades to get into anything worth it. My questions for you are: Are there any affordable art schools? Are there better ways to study audio production than college? Should I skip schooling altogether? How does a bassist go pro? Are there any plans/ways that you know of that would get me successful through music? PLEASE SHARE!

Never skip school. If you are looking to get into the production side, you will need to know the business side.

There is nothing wrong with community colleges. Get your two year degree in business. I know in Ohio you can then transfer to any state school to finish the Bach. Degree. As long as your CC grades are up to par, you are in. HS grades do not matter at that point.

This will also be your "fall back" option if needed. You will get a much better job with that degree in your pocket.

Trust the older folks here. You will regret not going. And going to college is NO FUN with a family and full time job. Trust me on this. I did it for 5 years.
 
Not sure what the requirements are for joining the military as a band member, but that might be an option.
There are a lot of educational benefits that go along with being in the military, both while you're in and after your term is served.

it's super hard and competitive. You would be surprised how many guys have masters degrees in music playing in the Marine band. My standmate from college plays bass in the presidents own band. Insane reading chops and polished upright skills are required. And he had to learn tuba. It's a serious gig that you shouldn't apply for unless you have a 4 year music performance degree. Competition for horn players is worse.
 
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1.) There is no money in the arts, repeat over & over
2.) Pursue music
3.) Learn a good skill to keep you alive as you pursue
#1 and #2.
This is the advice I got from a wise man/Berklee bass professor
when I graduated from high school.