You started it. If you didn't want this, then the other two threads should have answered your question. Sleeping dogs don't eat vomit.
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You started it. If you didn't want this, then the other two threads should have answered your question. Sleeping dogs don't eat vomit.
So, you posted in the Fender decal thread....
You started it. If you didn't want this, then the other two threads should have answered your question. Sleeping dogs don't eat vomit.
You started it. If you didn't want this, then the other two threads should have answered your question. Sleeping dogs don't eat vomit.
But what if Chevrolet was actually owned by Ferrari, and Ferrari made money from Chevvies precisely by making them visually identical to Ferraris? Would it be so wrong of me to put the horse logo on a Cavalier if it looked and ran almost exactly like a Ferrari Dino, and that likeness was its major selling point? And if Ferrari cried foul about this, wouldn't they seem just a little disingenuous? Their case may be legally sound under current law, but would it be ethically defensible?
1. With all due respect to the OP, it is pointless to start a thread on a public forum asking for people's opinions on a complex ethical issue without asking or expecting them to justify those opinions.
2. Appeals to "the law" in cases like this are intellectually lazy. They simply preempt the possibility of meaningful debate on an interesting ethical dilemma. "The law" in this country is a hodge-podge of rulings which embodies the ethical positions of a multitude of different authorities (local, state, federal) in many different times and places (from 18thC to now, from Alabama to New York). Ethically, it is thus full of contradictions, anomalies, and anachronisms. And all of it can be repealed. We should not let it do our thinking for us.
3. One can make a strong ethically defensible case for affixing Fender decals if one distinguishes between basses that are and are not authorized in some way by FMIC, eg., Squiers or basses made from, say, Fender-licensed Warmoth or Mighty Mite parts. It would be disingenuous of FMIC to claim that such basses or bass components cannot bear the "Fender" logo. Much of the value of these basses and components lies precisely in their "Fenderness," the Fender aesthetic of which the logo is such an essential part, the aesthetic from which Fender profits so handsomely. They cannot have it both ways.
4. Putting a Fender logo on a completely non-FMIC bass, like an MIJ lawsuit P-bass, is harder to defend ethically, and let's leave it at that.
I would never buy or trade for a bass with a Fender logo if it were not manufactured by Fender. When I see a Fender logo on a non-Fender instrument, I quickly lose interest in the instrument and move on.
1. With all due respect to the OP, it is pointless to start a thread on a public forum asking for people's opinions on a complex ethical issue without asking or expecting them to justify those opinions.
"Eventually, the counterfeit will change hands. Knowlegde of it's original identity will be forgotten. It will take on the appearence of an original to all except the most knowledgeable. This, makes counterfeiting in the first place wrong. Why is this so hard to see?"
You kind of answered your own question here.
Meh... some would drive a Chevy Cavalier with a Ferrari logo on it, and think it's cool.
It would be disingenuous of FMIC to claim that such basses or bass components cannot bear the "Fender" logo. Much of the value of these basses and components lies precisely in their "Fenderness," the Fender aesthetic of which the logo is such an essential part, the aesthetic from which Fender profits so handsomely. They cannot have it both ways.
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I think I'll just avoid the OP's threads from now on, since he makes his own set of rules for them.
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