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What would you do...?

Scratch it off....leave it on.

  • scratch it off

    Votes: 29 35.4%
  • leave it on

    Votes: 53 64.6%

  • Total voters
    82
  • Poll closed .
Maybe. I dont know. You think someone will buy it and then try to pass it off as real? You also believe that someone is going to shell out the coin for a vintage Fender and not have any clue on how to identify one? You then think the next owner or current owner will be dis-honest and not reveal its true origins?
 
So you believe the new owner will own it until the end of time? (final owner?)

One is not responsible for the actions of others.

I find it sad that there are people on this forum who would be quick to judge a person as immoral/dishonest for having a decal on a musical instrument, when they have made it abundantly clear that the instrument isn't genuine.

I think people who DO try to pass such instruments off as genuine to defraud others are bad human beings.
 
Maybe. I dont know. You think someone will buy it and then try to pass it off as real? You also believe that someone is going to shell out the coin for a vintage Fender and not have any clue as to identify one?

Oh yes, if he sells it, and it gets sold again and again...there's no doubt in my mind that someone along the line will try to pass it off as a Fender.

That's a guarantee.

Yes...there are many people who get suckered into buying Fake-ders.

People come to me all the time to help them verify their purchases.
 
I'd take it off if I were to sell it, I wouldn't want any legal liabilities on my arse, but to justify things, a little tidbit - Stradivarius revolutionized the construction of the violin, and his instruments are the most expensive ones you can find. Believe it or not, there are MANY strad. fakes from shortly after his death that came from Cremona. These luthiers who made the :fakes" were not trying to capitalize off of him and "fool" people into buying his instrument, nearly as much as to show that they modelled their instruments after his design, and in fact were actually trying to credit him.
 
When you put a counterfeit decal on a non-Fender product, you're engaging in trademark theft. You ARE stealing.

+1

A few years ago, I caught wind of a local store making Fenders out of SX guitars and basses. I had to check it out for myself, and discovered it isn't hard to figure out the cheap fakes from the real thing, no matter how hard they tried. It didn't take long for an attempted fake Les Paul Custom Shop on eBay to shut the whole store down. :D

I think the buyer took it to court, and they got what they deserved.

Keep it real, kids. If you want a tribute to a vintage Fender, there are tons of proper tributes out there to choose from.

Here's some.

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Not my cup-o-tea, but...

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If it wasn't made by Fender, Fender CBS, FMIC, or whatever else they may go by, it should NEVER have their name on it.
 
There is nothing legally wrong with placing a "fender" decal on a headstock as long as you don't try to pass it off as a real fender. People doing this is our own damn fault. Many times we hear with our eyes, so if we see a guy playing a Squier CV J bass we'll think gosh his tone sounds thin. But if that same guy sands the Squier name off and puts a Fender decal on the bass you would see a 66 Fender and say "Wow! They just don't build em like that anymore."

I owned for a short while a "tribute" bass. A Squier VM P bass that had new guts, bridge, pg and a Fender decal. The seller was honest and sent me a pic of the bass he wanted it to look like. I saw nothing wrong with this. I brought it to band practice and both my drummer and guitarist/singer were in love with the bass all night, thinking it was a Fender. About an hour before band practice was through my guitarist who played Gibson Sg's asked "how did you afford a bass like that?" Thinking it was a vintage fender. I said well, it's a Squier. He couldn't believe it, so I showed him the neck plate and the Made In China writing. We played another song and he said the "Fender" wasn't working well in the mix. It had been all night as long as it was a Fender, but when he knew it was a Squier it didn't sound so great to his eyes.

Nice story with a good point, but when you say "There is nothing legally wrong with placing a "fender" decal on a headstock as long as you don't try to pass it off as a real fender", you are DEAD WRONG!!