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What ya think UFO’s

Do you believe?

  • Yes. It’s gotta be true

    Votes: 33 44.6%
  • No. Crazy talk.

    Votes: 24 32.4%
  • Maybe. Explain

    Votes: 17 23.0%

  • Total voters
    74
Who knows?

We live in a 3 dimensional world. Length, width and depth.

Who knows! There might be 4 or more different dimensions with "intelligent life" right in our faces and we can't even see it.

I'm just gonna deal with the here and now and nothing else matters.

Fly to Planet Earth to "buzz around" and then do nothing? UFOs? I doubt it!

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How do you really know they aren’t doing something?
 
Do you believe in UFO’s or non human intelligent life?
I'd say extraterrestrial (ET) non-intelligent and lower intelligence non-human lifeforms (living or evidence from long past) are plentiful in the universe. But advanced intelligent non-human life is magnitudes less likely out there.

Therefore, it's not likely any of the plethora of UFO's reported are of alien origin.

Here's the TL;DR part LOL:

Earth has plenty of non-human lifeforms, many considered very intelligent (dolphins, ants, etc). Over a million different lifeforms from microbes to gnu's to whales currently reside here.

We classify these as no intelligence or lower intelligence as compared to ourselves. We can, comparatively, say humans are advanced intelligent life. We are 1 in a million+ of all lifeforms on Earth advanced enough to wonder about the stars and are capable of trying to reach 'em.

I'm thinking a similar disparity of '1 in a multitude' of advanced ET lifeorms ratio applies universally. That's because I believe humans, being as advanced as we are, are a fluke. Just an accidental by-product of past extinction events.

Consider if one major event would have happened (or not happened) in our distant past, humans probably wouldn't be advanced today. Possibly wouldn't even exist. Another lifeform would be a dominant one today, just not advanced enough to do what we do ("Yo, T! Yeah, you, Rex. Hand me that spanner wrench, you silly lizard you!").

Advanced intelligence isn't guaranteed at all in the universe. We're here because of clueless, do-da, chance.

But odd chances do happen. Our galaxy has about 100 billion stars. There are about 2 trillion galaxies out there, each with, say, about 100 billion stars. I'm guessing each star probably has 0 to 9 planets. With that sheer crazy big number of stars/planets out there, some advanced civilizations may still exist, or may have developed and died out already.

Would you want to know the answer if available?
Heck yeah! That'd be so cool.

How much would confirmation change this?
Wouldn't change it at all.

Bonus feature: Here's a video (2min 18 secs) from National Geographic covering extremophiles, life that exists in extreme environmental conditions on Earth. These give scientists clues about how life can possibly exist in the extreme environments of other planets.
Extremophiles 101
 
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Thank you, mapleglo. On this subject, people often make absolutist statements without really delving in ( why only in cornfields? Why only in the US? With all the cell phones…, it’s too far to travel, etc.).
 
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This alien civilization isn't relying on us listening to radio transmissions. They are taking a more direct approach...

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https://www.npr.org/2023/08/17/1194212940/question-mark-space-webb-telescope-photo
 
I saw something like this except it was crystal clear when i looked at it with a telescope. Without that it just looked like a circular White light in the sky about 2-3000 ft. Above our town. It was either turning in place or sunlight at dusk made it look like the pointy parts were moving . it was very cool and strange. Never saw a ufo until then, about two months ago, over s. Ill.
 

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I saw something like this except it was crystal clear when i looked at it with a telescope. Without that it just looked like a circular White light in the sky about 2-3000 ft. Above our town. It was either turning in place or sunlight at dusk made it look like the pointy parts were moving . it was very cool and strange. Never saw a ufo until then, about two months ago, over s. Ill.


Have you checked in on the previously childless neighbours, to see if they all of a sudden have an infant that can lift heavy farm equipment?
 
Have you checked in on the previously childless neighbours, to see if they all of a sudden have an infant that can lift heavy farm equipment?
I know, crazy right?. It was really there. should've taken a photo. It was there for long enough that i stopped looking at it. At first i thought it was a planet, but it was pretty big and bright, not moving, but rotating, sort of, in place.
 
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I know, crazy right?. It was really there. should've taken a photo. It was there for long enough that i stopped looking at it. At first i thought it was a planet, but it was pretty big and bright, not moving, but rotating, sort of, in place.

You can offer up your phone camera to the telescope eyepiece, and usually get a pretty good photo (there are commercially available adapter mounts too).

I think unless you were in a "close encounter" it could be very difficult to get a decent photo of a small object, at altitude, in the sky, using a smartphone.

The resolution isn't really good enough to take the wide shot, and zoom in after the fact - and if you use the digital zoom to try to frame the shot, the autofocus can rarely pinpoint the object in the sky, let alone get the exposure right (just try zooming in on a full moon, and getting a well focused image).
 
You can offer up your phone camera to the telescope eyepiece, and usually get a pretty good photo (there are commercially available adapter mounts too).

I think unless you were in a "close encounter" it could be very difficult to get a decent photo of a small object, at altitude, in the sky, using a smartphone.

The resolution isn't really good enough to take the wide shot, and zoom in after the fact - and if you use the digital zoom to try to frame the shot, the autofocus can rarely pinpoint the object in the sky, let alone get the exposure right (just try zooming in on a full moon, and getting a well focused image).

That reminds me of a time I was driving to work on a clear Summer day and the Goodyear Blimp looked low enough to see the gondola windows with my eyes…in other words HUGE! I could hear the props buzzing. I took several photos in a clear blue sky with an iPhone 14 Pro. The Blimp was full in my screen. I got to work and those photos appeared as small oblong dots in the sky. WTH?
 
TLDR, but - basically, the sheer size of the universe is such that it's beyond human comprehension. Our tiny little brains can't wrap our heads around the vastness of it all. The sheer number of potential sources of life is so great, that it's a statistical certainty that there is other "intelligent life" that has developed space travel that can occur at a rate possible to make interstellar migration possible. Can we prove it yet? No - we aren't smart enough to. It's an act of incredible arrogance and ignorance to state that you won't believe it until you see it.... But then, we seem to be a species that excels in displaying incredible arrogance and ignorance in most matters, so it's par for the course.
 
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