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What's the Best Bass for Hyperpop?

#145
yberwaffe said:
Nope.
I'm quite sure that Death Country doesn't exist.
Yet.
The local music shop was out of banjos last time I checked (it's needed for the ripping solos that are mandatory)
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Dude I'm going to start a death country band. It's going to be Ryan Martinie meets Hellyeah, meets Primus, meets Rob Scallon, and we're going to tour with Job for a Cowboy. That would such a fun genre especially if we could get all the guys mentioned to collaborate! Get guys like Kid Rock, Hank Williams Jr, Brad Paisley, in there. I know this is such an off topic rant but it would be a lot of fun though. Music is supposed to be fun and inventive. That's why we need great musicians to step up and bring skill in with new forms of creativity. Hyper punk hyper pop death country it up! Make something different!
 
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GTHintz said:
Dude I'm going to start a death country band. It's going to be Ryan Martinie meets Hellyeah, meets Primus, meets Rob Scallon, and we're going to tour with Job for a Cowboy. That would such a fun genre especially if we could get all the guys mentioned to collaborate! Get guys like Kid Rock, Hank Williams Jr, Brad Paisley, in there. I know this is such an off topic rant but it would be a lot of fun though. Music is supposed to be fun and inventive. That's why we need great musicians to step up and bring skill in with new forms of creativity. Hyper punk hyper pop death country it up! Make something different!
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Then they could drop Kid Rock off a bridge and write a song about it.
 
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This band called Ghoultown seems to be somewhere on the path of death-country. Maybe they can be part of @GTHintz's lineup.

Ghoultown

There was a time when cowpunk was a genre, but I think it fell out of fashion during the 90s. I think it might be ripe for a comeback.

Country hip-hop is becoming a growing thing with artists like Li'l Nas X, Breland, Blanco Brown, and others.

Being Indian, I sometimes tried to incorporate Indian ragas into my basslines (especially with my old punk band) so I sometimes thought of myself as "Bollywood punk."
 
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#152
juggahnaught said:
That's another topic that you should create! @ me in it, we should definitely discuss this.

I was thinking about it more this morning and I realize that in terms of hyperpop...I said that I wanted to see elements of hyperpop used in more virtuosic music that was dance-based. I realize that what I really want is music like this that's real and not just chiptune stuff (although I love chiptunes, I grew up with videogame music and it's still my favorite stuff):



(In fact, a member here posted a playalong video of this song. I'd heard this way before that was posted, and so I was pleasantly surprised to find that rendition.)

I can definitely see hyperpop techniques working really well in music like this, but incorporating vocals and instruments (and samples) to create songs that are musical and still have mass appeal. And the cool thing about chiptunes is that there's a lot of experimentation in it by default.

As for the metal integration - there's a band called Polyphia, and the first song on their album Renaissance begins to approach what I'm thinking of as a hyperpop-metal hybrid (although it's definitely not as intense as the hyperpop stuff):



It's firmly rooted but I feel like you can hear some of the electronic/sample influences here. I'd love to see a subgenre (sub-subgenre?) of hyperpop that really attempted to push the musical portion of it.

Hope this all makes sense. Oddly, I'm kind of inspired right now.
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Have you heard Igorrr? Not exactly hyperpop but it it might scratch that itch:

 
#153
Dincrest said:
This band called Ghoultown seems to be somewhere on the path of death-country. Maybe they can be part of @GTHintz's lineup.

Ghoultown

There was a time when cowpunk was a genre, but I think it fell out of fashion during the 90s. I think it might be ripe for a comeback.

Country hip-hop is becoming a growing thing with artists like Li'l Nas X, Breland, Blanco Brown, and others.

Being Indian, I sometimes tried to incorporate Indian ragas into my basslines (especially with my old punk band) so I sometimes thought of myself as "Bollywood punk."
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I liked country rock but the pop country is not very tasteful unfortunately. Traditional country and traditional pop are both very basic and can get redundant in a hurry. That's why mixing them tends to turn out boring and stale. Not always but the crap the modern country radio likes to play certainly doesn't hold my attention very long.
 
#154
Radio often plays it safe because it doesn't want to alienate mainstream listeners. Top-40 type listeners have never been the most musically adventurous.

That's why I love threads like this one where I can catch wind of stuff I didn't know about before.

That being said, for a "gig" I learned that vapid pop-country song "Country Girl (Shake it for Me)" by Luke Bryan and it's actually enjoyable to play on bass. Go figure.

EDIT: To cycle back to hyperpop... with this whole discussion, I can't help but think of that FreaXXX song by Brokencyde. Back when it first came out in 2008 or 9, we all were like "W.T.F?!?!?!" and thought it was the absolute stupidest piece of garbage ever. Cut to now (13-14 years later), and I can hear some of their sonic influence in current-day hyperpop/glitchcore.

So, is Brokencyde a valid discussion point in the evolution of hyperpop? Were they a fluke or were they truly ahead of their time?
 
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Although it may be hyperpop and seem futuristic, usually if there’s real bass lines in these songs it’s going after that “nu-disco”, vintagey funk, disco tone. So needless to say, it really often is a p-bass/jazz bass/stingray thing, and often enough it’s SAMPLE libraries of these basses, played into the track on a keyboard or midi programmed. By using samples and quantizing midi notes you acheive the futuristic, dare I say “HYPER” realism, where it sounds like some bass player in a space ship 100 yrs from now, playing a vintage p bass, but with 3 hands. Lol ;)
 
#157
GTHintz said:
Dude I'm going to start a death country band. It's going to be Ryan Martinie meets Hellyeah, meets Primus, meets Rob Scallon, and we're going to tour with Job for a Cowboy. That would such a fun genre especially if we could get all the guys mentioned to collaborate! Get guys like Kid Rock, Hank Williams Jr, Brad Paisley, in there. I know this is such an off topic rant but it would be a lot of fun though. Music is supposed to be fun and inventive. That's why we need great musicians to step up and bring skill in with new forms of creativity. Hyper punk hyper pop death country it up! Make something different!
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Hank III did a Devildriver collab on his song Country Heroes.
 
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Dincrest said:
Radio often plays it safe because it doesn't want to alienate mainstream listeners. Top-40 type listeners have never been the most musically adventurous.

That's why I love threads like this one where I can catch wind of stuff I didn't know about before.

That being said, for a "gig" I learned that vapid pop-country song "Country Girl (Shake it for Me)" by Luke Bryan and it's actually enjoyable to play on bass. Go figure.

EDIT: To cycle back to hyperpop... with this whole discussion, I can't help but think of that FreaXXX song by Brokencyde. Back when it first came out in 2008 or 9, we all were like "W.T.F?!?!?!" and thought it was the absolute stupidest piece of garbage ever. Cut to now (13-14 years later), and I can hear some of their sonic influence in current-day hyperpop/glitchcore.

So, is Brokencyde a valid discussion point in the evolution of hyperpop? Were they a fluke or were they truly ahead of their time?
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It kind of is. Lots of styles and songs that were much maligned and mocked are often taken to even further levels of absurdity in Hyperpop to create something enjoyable. I'm really stretching this right now because i can't think of a better example, but do you remember that song "Friday" by Rebecca black in the early YouTube days that got panned so hard it made it's way onto Tosh.0? Well she did a Hyperpop remix of the song with Dorian Electra that's actually pretty fun.



It's different from the original where people were listening because it was "so bad." They notch the absurdity up a level to make something new and fun.
 
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Okay, I love that remix because it doubles down on the autotune and everything. It's like she's trolling her trolls with that clap back.

I remember back then everyone hated the song because of how cringeworthy it was, but nowadays it's a different story. In other multimedia, cringe-comedy is what's popular and trending.

Thanks for sharing that, @IamJohn

(And since some folks went into tangents (heh tan-djent) about metal because this is TalkBass after all, I can't help but think of the band Attila in the hyper-genre conversation. They started out as a garden variety metalcore band with above average musicianship but didn't gain any traction... until they turned heel (to use a pro wrestling term) and basically became a troll band. People ate up that gimmick and they blew up. The lyrics and video for "About That Life" (circa 2012-2013) are so over-the-top that it is kinda brilliant in it's sheer and utter stupid offensiveness/ offensive stupidity. They 100% dialed up the (self-aware) absurd d-bagginess beyond any sort of tolerably cringeworthy levels. Not going to link it since it is quite NSFW.

I doubt Attila themselves will come back in style since three of their members are facing sexual assault charges, making them more scummy than their lyrics, but something like "About That Life" could conceivably end up being a blueprint for hyperpop-metalcore).
 
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