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What's the Best Bass for Hyperpop?
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I would go for a 'modern sounding' or 'non-traditional' P.
So think Spector Euro LT or Warwick Adam Clayton signature.
Peace,
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So think Spector Euro LT or Warwick Adam Clayton signature.
Peace,
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dunno if this has been posted but the answer is resampled slap bass
he's 50 of the 100 gecs for context
he's 50 of the 100 gecs for context
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I don’t think it matters much because the bass would be going through so many effects you could get almost any tone you wanted.
You’d definitely need a compressor and a fuzz to replicate the texture of synth bass. Maybe also some kind of envelope filter.
I first thought that you’d need a modern sounding bass, but then I remembered the guy from Ratatat used a Gibson EB-0. Ratatt isn’t Hyperpop, but they share some sonic DNA with it.
You’d definitely need a compressor and a fuzz to replicate the texture of synth bass. Maybe also some kind of envelope filter.
I first thought that you’d need a modern sounding bass, but then I remembered the guy from Ratatat used a Gibson EB-0. Ratatt isn’t Hyperpop, but they share some sonic DNA with it.
Tbh, the only reason I'm making this thread is that the genre of Hyperpop has never been mentioned on this site (look it up, 0 results). Seeing as it is one of the newest genre's of music with growing popularity, it seems like a good idea to get TB to start thinking about how the bass guitar is and can be incorporated, starting with what gear to use.
For those of you who don't know, which is apparently everybody based on the search results;
"Hyperpop is a loosely-defined music movement and microgenre, characterized by a maximalist or exaggerated take on pop music"
Some of the bigger artists in the scene would be 100 Gecs, Bladee, SOPHIE (r.i.p), Charli XCX, and Slayyyter for reference.
Even though the genre is heavily steeped in electronic music, there's still a role for the bass. Recently 100 Gecs released the song Doritos and Fritos which contains a very prominent bass line.
So in classic Talkbass fashion, I'd like to begin by asking the question that will definitely be well received with an objective answer we all agree on; what's the best bass for Hyperpop?
This sounds like new wave to me, plain and simple.
Hyperpop? Sounds nothing like Ultrapop I guess
okay okay okay okay lemme do a hyperpop primer
'hyperpop' is a manifestation of internet culture that essentially comes in 2 flavors
the original flavor is derivative of music from a label called PC Music. It's a label founded & often produced for by a guy called A.G. Cook. This style, which began as 'bubblegum bass', was essentially taking 2000s electronic pop tropes and 2010s EDM tropes & making them as saccharine, over-produced and insincere as possible. it's music you'd hear in a department store, turned up to 11, that gained enough popularity through artists like Charli XCX that it literally started being played in department stores.
the other flavor comes from teenagers on soundcloud imitating 100 Gecs. gecs released an album called 1000 Gecs that was essentially them doing whatever silly thing they felt like, drawing from ska to dubstep to grindcore to eurodance and more. lyrics are incredibly cheesy & auto-tuned to death, the arrangements do whatever they feel like whenever they feel like. it's a bit like taking every band from late 2000s Warped Tour and mashing them together to make a record. it got wildly popular & soundcloud teens started imitating the style heavily, also drawing from influences like 'nightcore' (the early-mid 2000s practice of uploading sped up versions of songs to the internet) as well hiphop influences like trap & jersey club.
'hyperpop' is a manifestation of internet culture that essentially comes in 2 flavors
the original flavor is derivative of music from a label called PC Music. It's a label founded & often produced for by a guy called A.G. Cook. This style, which began as 'bubblegum bass', was essentially taking 2000s electronic pop tropes and 2010s EDM tropes & making them as saccharine, over-produced and insincere as possible. it's music you'd hear in a department store, turned up to 11, that gained enough popularity through artists like Charli XCX that it literally started being played in department stores.
the other flavor comes from teenagers on soundcloud imitating 100 Gecs. gecs released an album called 1000 Gecs that was essentially them doing whatever silly thing they felt like, drawing from ska to dubstep to grindcore to eurodance and more. lyrics are incredibly cheesy & auto-tuned to death, the arrangements do whatever they feel like whenever they feel like. it's a bit like taking every band from late 2000s Warped Tour and mashing them together to make a record. it got wildly popular & soundcloud teens started imitating the style heavily, also drawing from influences like 'nightcore' (the early-mid 2000s practice of uploading sped up versions of songs to the internet) as well hiphop influences like trap & jersey club.
Tbh, the only reason I'm making this thread is that the genre of Hyperpop has never been mentioned on this site (look it up, 0 results). Seeing as it is one of the newest genre's of music with growing popularity, it seems like a good idea to get TB to start thinking about how the bass guitar is and can be incorporated, starting with what gear to use.
For those of you who don't know, which is apparently everybody based on the search results;
"Hyperpop is a loosely-defined music movement and microgenre, characterized by a maximalist or exaggerated take on pop music"
Some of the bigger artists in the scene would be 100 Gecs, Bladee, SOPHIE (r.i.p), Charli XCX, and Slayyyter for reference.
Even though the genre is heavily steeped in electronic music, there's still a role for the bass. Recently 100 Gecs released the song Doritos and Fritos which contains a very prominent bass line.
So in classic Talkbass fashion, I'd like to begin by asking the question that will definitely be well received with an objective answer we all agree on; what's the best bass for Hyperpop?
You sure it’s not simply an attempt to rebadge New Wave? From a practical POV, it seems a bit disingenuous to refer to a musical style which first emerged in the late 70’s as “new” anything, so maybe some marketing genius decided to do what marketing types are so good at, rebranding. Taking the same soap formula and changing the packaging. The new box art is used to justify the claim that the same soap you’ve been trusting your dirtiest clothes and delicate unmentionables to for decades is now “NEW AND IMPROVED!!” It obviously works to boost sales of products which suffer from over exposure by offering a safe way to get the latest and greatest from a known quantity that’s just been updated. No need to trust an upstart newcomer, just pick up the “NEW AND IMPROVED!!” version of an already established brand that’s been slowly losing market share in a field constantly crowded out by fresh, new, entries.
there is also the hipster insider appeal. How many people you know who are constantly searching for the latest “thing”? What easier way to give them an excuse to smugly introduce their provincial friends to the larger cultural landscape than to turn them on to Hyper Wave, or maybe New Pop, or maybe go for the full monty and call it…HYPERPOP!!
Tbh, the only reason I'm making this thread is that the genre of Hyperpop has never been mentioned on this site (look it up, 0 results). Seeing as it is one of the newest genre's of music with growing popularity, it seems like a good idea to get TB to start thinking about how the bass guitar is and can be incorporated, starting with what gear to use.
For those of you who don't know, which is apparently everybody based on the search results;
"Hyperpop is a loosely-defined music movement and microgenre, characterized by a maximalist or exaggerated take on pop music"
Some of the bigger artists in the scene would be 100 Gecs, Bladee, SOPHIE (r.i.p), Charli XCX, and Slayyyter for reference.
Even though the genre is heavily steeped in electronic music, there's still a role for the bass. Recently 100 Gecs released the song Doritos and Fritos which contains a very prominent bass line.
So in classic Talkbass fashion, I'd like to begin by asking the question that will definitely be well received with an objective answer we all agree on; what's the best bass for Hyperpop?
Ugh. I'm going to pretend I didn't just listen to that.
The answer, as always, depends on the gig. How important are the optics vs the tonal character of the instrument. Those factors are pretty independent of “genre.” It’s showtime.So in classic Talkbass fashion, I'd like to begin by asking the question that will definitely be well received with an objective answer we all agree on; what's the best bass for Hyperpop?
I tend to agree with this post, and others along the same lines.
OP: I can’t really discern whether you are asking a legit Q, or just stewing beef over generational perceived differences. My only comment on the latter is that Popular Music in all it’s guises has been based on some elements of generational / cultural defiance; which the A&R folks have taken to the bank. The different spins are inherent in the art form and positive for the health of the art. Believe it or not, Mustang Sally was even once a thumb in the eye. New stuff is great; except, that where it doesn’t work, IMO, is where there is total rejection of all the previous forms (which isn’t the case with your vid). The trick for newer creativity IMHO to find the new spins, while extending the previous art. EOR.
Agree completely. Was the first thing I thought. "Hyperpop" is nothing new. Whatever bass you play will work. Something headless would fit nicely.
they play at the mall.
