There's a 0% chance I would ever be skilled enough to use that effectively. Pretty neat though.
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What's the Best Bass for Hyperpop?
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There's a 0% chance I would ever be skilled enough to use that effectively. Pretty neat though.
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Peavey did wired frets quite a few years ago, it’s a very sensible approach technically IMO but yeah…$$$.
Lol, yeah , I like Victor saying they need to get one into someone young's hands to explore all the possibilities.
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100Gecs is amazing. I haven't been following them closely but every so often something they do crosses my path and I'm blown away. Their current stuff is pretty mainstream compared to early numbers like 800db Cloud:
And since I'm old hyperpop reminds me of bands like Plus-Tech Squeeze Box which had their day in the mid-00s. I guess they tend to get slotted with Shibuya-kei but to me they always seemed way too frantic for that, although they're like chamber music compared to stuff coming out these days:
Also Asian pop has been doing things like maxing out autotune and compression deliberately for over a decade, just as a matter of course in mainstream pop music. It can be kinda harsh to listen to if you're not attuned to it but they're working for their audience, not for us...
As far as equipment goes, as far as I can tell nobody seems beholden to any specific instruments. There are no archetypal guitars and basses like there were for various genres of rock. I doubt anybody's going to call you out for getting the sound wrong if you play a Stingray's lines on a Precision or a synth's lines on whatever. I mean, getting all the tones correct for "Stupid Horse" is not half as important as making it slam like the original:
And since I'm old hyperpop reminds me of bands like Plus-Tech Squeeze Box which had their day in the mid-00s. I guess they tend to get slotted with Shibuya-kei but to me they always seemed way too frantic for that, although they're like chamber music compared to stuff coming out these days:
Also Asian pop has been doing things like maxing out autotune and compression deliberately for over a decade, just as a matter of course in mainstream pop music. It can be kinda harsh to listen to if you're not attuned to it but they're working for their audience, not for us...
As far as equipment goes, as far as I can tell nobody seems beholden to any specific instruments. There are no archetypal guitars and basses like there were for various genres of rock. I doubt anybody's going to call you out for getting the sound wrong if you play a Stingray's lines on a Precision or a synth's lines on whatever. I mean, getting all the tones correct for "Stupid Horse" is not half as important as making it slam like the original:
Wow, that looks super useful. I actually kinda want that. It'd be pretty neat to play on when i can't have a bass with me.
I hate to admit that it sounds pretty good. Don't like a particular bass? Just pick another from the drop down list.
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Tbh, the only reason I'm making this thread is that the genre of Hyperpop has never been mentioned on this site (look it up, 0 results). Seeing as it is one of the newest genre's of music with growing popularity, it seems like a good idea to get TB to start thinking about how the bass guitar is and can be incorporated, starting with what gear to use.
For those of you who don't know, which is apparently everybody based on the search results;
"Hyperpop is a loosely-defined music movement and microgenre, characterized by a maximalist or exaggerated take on pop music"
Some of the bigger artists in the scene would be 100 Gecs, Bladee, SOPHIE (r.i.p), Charli XCX, and Slayyyter for reference.
Even though the genre is heavily steeped in electronic music, there's still a role for the bass. Recently 100 Gecs released the song Doritos and Fritos which contains a very prominent bass line.
So in classic Talkbass fashion, I'd like to begin by asking the question that will definitely be well received with an objective answer we all agree on; what's the best bass for Hyperpop?
P Bass and...is this a joke?
A lot of good info here. I think the K-pop/Asian pop scene is the closest a lot of people who haven't heard of Hyperpop might be aware of. It's structurally pretty similar to a standard modern pop track from the US/UK, but its much more in your face with the compression and autotune like you mentioined.
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Okay, not a joke. By the first video you had on here, it just seemed like the band sure thought it was.
But, never heard of it.
Either way, P bass with rounds. That's his sound.
MGK was basically just doing straight pop punk, which is having a bit of a revival I think.
Some.interesting stuff here. I'm definitely more into classic pop (think Spice Girls) so while I loved the coconut song, some of the more extreme stuff isn't really my cup of tea....but I get it. I really do. I can't explain it but I'd be excited to see something that fused elements of Hyperpop with progressive rock/metal while keeping it danceable. Virtuosic stuff that's really musical, yet still accessible while pushing the limits. It could be the "new rock" of the new generation. (That clown video is pretty much already on that path, that was awesome.)
Basswise?
Dingwall NG3, six-string, brightest rounds possible. Run it into an effects processor/amp modeler for maximum versatily. Roland MIDI pickup a possibility, running in parallel into a BOSS SY-1000 or whatever their current flagship is. And yes, a synth alongside the bass guitar - think about how Geddy Lee incorporated synths. This path would allow for unparalleled creativity and soundcrafting, and using an extended range bass would allow the bass to cover other roles in the music as well. (Chording, melodies, counterpoints, tapping, ambience....becaude why not? In a genre like this....you could do anything. Anything.) This is the path I'd take.
Basswise?
Dingwall NG3, six-string, brightest rounds possible. Run it into an effects processor/amp modeler for maximum versatily. Roland MIDI pickup a possibility, running in parallel into a BOSS SY-1000 or whatever their current flagship is. And yes, a synth alongside the bass guitar - think about how Geddy Lee incorporated synths. This path would allow for unparalleled creativity and soundcrafting, and using an extended range bass would allow the bass to cover other roles in the music as well. (Chording, melodies, counterpoints, tapping, ambience....becaude why not? In a genre like this....you could do anything. Anything.) This is the path I'd take.
As usual when these sorts of questions get asked, the question is irrelevant, or at the very least ill conceived.
The bass itself is close to the least important aspect of getting what you need to suit your genre. Unless you are talking about something very specific, like being able to play pitches that require an extended range bass, then it's largely going to be about what the player decides to play, how he or she decides to play it, and how the tone is manipulated using outboard tools.
The bass itself is close to the least important aspect of getting what you need to suit your genre. Unless you are talking about something very specific, like being able to play pitches that require an extended range bass, then it's largely going to be about what the player decides to play, how he or she decides to play it, and how the tone is manipulated using outboard tools.
Whatever bass you have is the best bass for anything.
It's not the instrument. It's the skill and artistic vision of the player that makes things work.
PS: That song is freaking cool.
It's not the instrument. It's the skill and artistic vision of the player that makes things work.
PS: That song is freaking cool.
That clown video was actually by Berklee grads, so you're on track. If you know Louis Cole, he's the clown on the drums. Insanely talented. They have an album called Van. It was recorded in a van. There's a music video... it's all in the van. I could go on about this whole scene, but that's another topic.
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