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What's wrong with 2023 audiences?

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Two of my friends work in child social services, and one of the biggest issues they've seen in recent years is young children that are extremely poorly socialised, because their parents basically left their parenting to the internet/youtube etc. (talking about serious cases, where parents would literally give the kid an ipad and food, and have few other interactions with them).

When I was younger, I remember it being a common accusation to say "the parents are letting the TV raise their child." The internet is just the next logical step, as it's now far more portable.

Also...how many of those people complaining about phones are using their phone to view and comment in this thread?
 
So, I've read this thread, and I ... uh ...
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20 something's may be far too numb and jaded to even know how to react to a non virtual real life situation.
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My goodness no. Not at all. The kids love live music, especially when it's performed well. If all you are getting is wallpaper gigs then you are not engaging that audience enough. The big difference is that now they don't have to feign interest. If you don't captivate them then they can turn to their phones and treat you like background noise. When friends and I show up in full showman mode we get excellent crowd reactions from all ages. When we just show up and play we do not. It's really about engagement, and maybe on some level it always has been.
 
Went to Dancing on the Cooper last Sat night. Shem Creek Boogie Band was play classic oldies and beach music. Dance floor was packed and the seated crowd clapped for the band regularly. Not a wallpaper gig at all. Wonder if the difference was the age of the crowd, oldies and beach, you can probably guess the demographic.

Reading your post makes me long for the days of living and playing music in the Charleston area. Thanks for the memories! :bassist:
 
My goodness no. Not at all. The kids love live music, especially when it's performed well. If all you are getting is wallpaper gigs then you are not engaging that audience enough. The big difference is that now they don't have to feign interest. If you don't captivate them then they can turn to their phones and treat you like background noise. When friends and I show up in full showman mode we get excellent crowd reactions from all ages. When we just show up and play we do not. It's really about engagement, and maybe on some level it always has been.
May I ask what "full showman mode" is?
 
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The 5,000 Fingers of Dr. T. is a 1953 American musical fantasy film about a boy who dreams himself into a fantasy world ruled by a diabolical piano teacher enslaving children to practice piano forever. It was the only feature film written by Theodor Seuss Geisel (Dr. Seuss), who wrote the story, screenplay, and lyrics.

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When that "what's your favorite musical" thread popped up last year I posted that this one was. I don't think I got any likes. :crying:
 
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"pushing" 60?

A month away from 66 here and I'm on the tail end of being called a boomer.

OTOH, I run a weekly jam where we've got quite a few 20-30-somethings who participate and do a better job playing this stuff than most of us ever did.
True, same thing for jazz and even classical. I played a straight-ahead jazz gig this afternoon, and the sax player was 21. My kids both play classical.

I think what happens is that each genre eventually loses the audience that's from the "generation" associated with that genre, and welcomes a mixture of age groups among both listeners, players, and creators of new material.
 
Never expected this to reach a full page let alone 18 pages.
Got a duo show tomorrow with the BL. I'm playing with the idea of bringing the EBMM Reflex.
I promise I won't start a thread about it even if the bartender breaks my nose...
It was a good post. It brought up a lot of relevant considerations that transcend dad rock. Some say you got roughed up a bit but I think this was generally pretty civil and on-topic. The big issues: how to be gracefully ignored, where to store my beautiful ego the moment I leave the bubble of my house (mind), what is a benefit, most non-musicians/organizers have no idea what musicians are/need, am I irrelevant, are we/I as good as we/I think we/I are/am, what do people want from live music/ where to put my frustration/blame for not inspiring a crowd…. These are all things we ALL deal with as performers. A surprisingly useful thread.
 
True, same thing for jazz and even classical. I played a straight-ahead jazz gig this afternoon, and the sax player was 21. My kids both play classical.
What happens here at the "jazz jam" is that mostly the kids from the local college music programs come out and shame the old-timers with their mad skills. I'm very glad they have these opportunities still to play with random other players, though, because that's a huge part of the difference between what they're learning in school and what they'll encounter in real life.

The oldsters come for the blues jams. Most folks in that (my) generation don't care as much about jazz.
 
It was a good post. It brought up a lot of relevant considerations that transcend dad rock. Some say you got roughed up a bit but I think this was generally pretty civil and on-topic. The big issues: how to be gracefully ignored, where to store my beautiful ego the moment I leave the bubble of my house (mind), what is a benefit, most non-musicians/organizers have no idea what musicians are/need, am I irrelevant, are we/I as good as we/I think we/I are/am, what do people want from live music/ where to put my frustration/blame for not inspiring a crowd…. These are all things we ALL deal with as performers. A surprisingly useful thread.
Yeah. I lurked TB for years before I set up an account. Expected a few beatings. They all went pretty well overall. Maybe I learned a different perspective. Maybe others learned a different perspective. No blood no foul.
 
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