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Whats wrong with my fish?

Dec 26, 2007
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So I have a pair of goldfish. A long skinny one and one of those googley eyed fat ones.

I think they're sick. The long one just swims around the bottom (I haven't seen him eating) and the fat one is only swimming around on one side of his body and he keeps drifting to the top. I think he's going to die soon.

I am a sad panda.

:bawl:
 
What size tank do you have them in? Goldfish usually don't do well in small tanks.
It sounds like the one swimming on it's side may have some swim bladder problem. Feeding frozen peas may sometimes help with that. You can just thaw a few out and crush them a bit and see if your fish'll eat em.
If you can, test your water for ammonia, nitrates, and nitrites. They can be toxic to fish if the levels get too high. Some pet stores will test your water for free if you bring in a sample of the aquarium water.
For now you should change the water like Fontaine said. Try changing 25% of it first, then do another 25% change later. You don't want to stress the fish out by changing too much of the water at once.
Oh, and how long have you had the tank running? If your tank's pretty new, the filter may not have the proper bacteria in it, which would cause high levels of ammonia and the sort.
 
Right after posting this thread I changed the water.

My tank is kinda small and has no filter. However I change the water every day.

Do I feed the fish the peas when they're frozen, or when they're thawed out?

this could have something to do with what is wrong with your fish. if you are dumping the water for new water daily and the water hasn't been properly treated first. it will kill the fish.

the chemicals that are used to make the tap water safe to drink make it not safe for your fish. specifically chlorine. change the water less often and no more than 1/3rd of the water each time.

also get a larger tank with a filter. preferably no smaller than 5 gallons.

some people like the fish bowl setup but the only fish that does is the Betta and it is used to living in rice patties:hmm:
 
A filter for the tank is the best idea. But if not, change the water everyday but not right from the tap. Put it in a bowl and let it sit overnight before you add it to the aquarium. So fill a bowl or bucket today from the tap, and use that to add to the aquarium tomorrow, and so on. Fresh tap water has too much chlorine and such, allowing it to sit about 24 hours can help a lot. Plus this way you're adding it at room temperature. If it's too cold or warm, it'll "shock" them.
Also don't practice bass right next to their tank, the vibrations will freak them out.
Or just put them into a glass of wine and drink them down in front of your amazed and astonished friends. Chicks dig it. You'll be the life of the party and will not have to worry about any of this stuff any more.
 
Rather than change all the water in the bowl/tank, I advise doing partial water changes instead. 25% should be sufficient. Replacing an entire bowl/tank of water can also be a threat to your fish. Also these are goldfish and require a slightly colder temperature than a tropical fish does. Perhaps the water temp could be having an effect on your gilled friends.

I don't keep gold fish so I'm not sure what to make of one of the fish, but it sounds like the one has a problem with its swim bladder and is more than likely going to die. I've heard the frozen peas bit too, but I've never had it help any of my fish when I found them swimming on their side.

I'm not quite sure what to make of the one thats only swimming around on the bottom. I would try feeding it some sinking pellets or algea waffers. If it doesn't eat those then I'd be a little more concerned.

BTW, how old are your 2 fish? They could simply be nearing the end of their natural lifespan.

Heres a couple of links for you. Hope it helps.

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http://www.tropicalfishforum.net/
 
Or just put them into a glass of wine and drink them down in front of your amazed and astonished friends. Chicks dig it. You'll be the life of the party and will not have to worry about any of this stuff any more.

I remember a drummer friend did this in the form of a contest at his band's shows.

They play grindcore.
 
two red ear sliders. i've never tried a crayfish, but the parade of other aquatic animals never last long.
my brother had a peninsula cooter for about a dozen years. He had success with a crayfish or two

Red eared sliders and all aquatic turtles eat fish. So based on that I wouldn't put fish in with turtles unless you plan on using them as a food source. Turtles foul the water very very quickly and fish cannot usually tolerate the conditions of these tanks very long. I kept some cray fish in with turtles I once had. The turtles tore into them with much vigor. I also kept crayfish in with my aquarium until one day I came home and saw a small crayfish munching on my spotted leopard puffer fish. Though pissed off for it eating it, it was still really interesting to watch.

A good rule of thumb for keeping fish is the bigger the tank the easier it is to care for and keep different speicies of fish alive in it. Also the bigger the tank the longer you can go without feeding, cleaning, partial water changes, etc.
 
Right after posting this thread I changed the water.

My tank is kinda small and has no filter. However I change the water every day.

Do I feed the fish the peas when they're frozen, or when they're thawed out?

No wonder they are dying when you use no filter. Dad used to have a huge fish-tank (150 gallons or similar, was pretty huge when I was a kid), and he said that water always need time to 'acclimatise'. If you keep filling new water, they will eventually die due to the wrong levels of whatnot in the water. Now go buy a filter :p
 
Estuarine Bio degree and lifetime freshwater/brackish/salt/reef/whatever aquarium owner here. Two main things will make fish ill and/or kill them. Ammonia and shock.

Ammonia is caused by organic things rotting in the tank - food, crap, etc. Feed your fish every other day, or even third day, and make sure they eat everything. Make it a goal to have no food go uneaten. Otherwise it will just sit on the bottom, rot, and turn into ammonia - like the crap. There are beneficial bacteria in the bowl/tank that will convert that ammonia to nitrite/nitrate, but without a filter, there is very little surface area and aeration to promote bacteria and it's respiration. The end result is since there isn't much bacteria, it can only convert so much of that poisonous ammonia before it starts to build and exceed safe levels. Fish gets stressed from this, gets sick, dies. Cut down on food and you can go a week or two easy without a water change.

The other common shock is the water change. It's very necessary, but needs to be done right. First off, let the water come to room temp that the goldfish's water is already at. Second, get the chlorine out of the water (if it's from tap). Either let it sit for a day to let the chlorine naturally dissipate or buy drops that will remove it immediately. No need to change all of it - try half.

That's it. Feed less, change water as needed (weekly is good for a fishbowl without filtration) and make sure it is the same temp as existing water and chlorine free.
 
Red eared sliders and all aquatic turtles eat fish. So based on that I wouldn't put fish in with turtles unless you plan on using them as a food source. Turtles foul the water very very quickly and fish cannot usually tolerate the conditions of these tanks very long. I kept some cray fish in with turtles I once had. The turtles tore into them with much vigor.

i know all about that. turtles are gross little things. i was just kidding about not being able to keep things in the turtle tanks. the fish are for food. the snails are an experiment that we keep trying, and keep failing at.
 
i know all about that. turtles are gross little things. i was just kidding about not being able to keep things in the turtle tanks. the fish are for food. the snails are an experiment that we keep trying, and keep failing at.

Turtles aren't necessarily gross IMO, they just have specific requirements and people often don't realize this and decide to keep them as they would with fish. Big mistake. They need lots of room, fully filtered water, a variety of food types, and basking space. Some are also cleaner than others depending on the species. You also need to size anything you put into their aquarium. If you want to put fish in, you need to make sure that they're at least 80% the size of the turt otherwise it's prey.

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Turtles aren't necessarily gross IMO, they just have specific requirements and people often don't realize this and decide to keep them as they would with fish. Big mistake. They need lots of room, fully filtered water, a variety of food types, and basking space. Some are also cleaner than others depending on the species. You also need to size anything you put into their aquarium. If you want to put fish in, you need to make sure that they're at least 80% the size of the turt otherwise it's prey.

i know that too. if not properly treated the water can get disgusting. my wife's brother will not listen to anyone on how to care for his. i feel for that poor thing.
i think turtles are wonderful, and watching them hunt their prey can be fun, for me.
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