Amen, I keep telling our keyboard player to move his left hand to the right one octave. He does it for a little then it wanders back. So I sometimes have the bass on his channel eq turned all the way down.
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when is a subwoofer needed?
- Thread starter hgregs
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The only rooms we do without a sub are those where the acoustic kick is as loud as the audience wants things. We play a few of those, dinner set type stuff. Even then we might put a touch of kick in the mains, but just a touch. Any louder and the sub comes out and handles the kick. Next volume level up bass goes into the sub, then keys (assuming a keyboard amp), all crossed over as described earlier at around 75hz from the main mix. An aux send can work too; there's a lot more overlap but it allows easy fine tuning of the mains / sub balance. Next step up adds the guitar to the board, but now you're rippin' it! Any louder and you're into a bigger system with multiple monitor mixes and high-powered mains. Usually the venue owns those and runs 'em too. ...though I've had to run a few from stage with a snake to the house board! So there you go, a different set-up for every volume level.
PS: Come to think of it, you probably won't be doing too many dinner sets with two drummers
. OK then, a sub for every gig it is!
PS: Come to think of it, you probably won't be doing too many dinner sets with two drummers
. OK then, a sub for every gig it is!
Yep, I'm out the door and gone. Or I might as well turn off my amp and pretend to play.
If there are keys in the mains mix and you crossover the whole shebang, well there you go. If it's a concern, you may want to get a sling for your keyboard's left arm
Just because it is a keyboard doesn't mean it is a piano. If I play with a keyboard player and I'm using aux fed subs he will be in them. Some organ and synth patches can be real low frequencies.
You need a sub. Or two. The QSC K-subs totally ROCK! Self-powered and easy to store and move size-wise. We use two of 'em for most shows. The JBL M-PRO 255S passive subs also TOTALLY ROCK!!! They are BIG (but so is the sound!) and need outboard amps but for large rooms or outside they absolutely rule. We use a pair of these at our church and I own a pair for FOH sound for bigger and outside gigs. They are very inexpensive on the used market right now as many are moving the powered subs like the QSC K-subs. About the best sounding and cost effective passive subs out there ah-yup!
