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Where are the metal bands?

Forgot about Dragonforce. Lame name great skill/speed.
Did they ever learn how to play their songs? :D

Someone asked earlier about the difference between seeing a band at a festival vs. club.

Unless you enjoy going to a concert and sitting way in the back while hoping none of those big scary long hair rockers comes near you, a smaller venue is the best way to really experience "metal."

I love metal for the emotion and energy it fills my soul with. I don't care if I'm alone or in a group of non metalheads, you put on some badass high energy thrashing metal and its like a switch gets flipped inside me, and I gotta let it out. Being in a group of other individuals that feel it the same way only amplifies it.

And I don't get the reasoning behind this "metal isn't popular anymore because of the guttural vocals" thing. Obviously this is not the case, as people wouldn't be listening and playing it if nobody liked it. Its metal for metal heads, not your 8 year old niece. If you want something friendlier go buy a Hannah Montana DVD or something.

/rant

These threads tick me off.
 
[QUOTE="ShredderMaximus, post: 16009573, member: 86158"
And I don't get the reasoning behind this "metal isn't popular anymore because of the guttural vocals" thing. Obviously this is not the case, as people wouldn't be listening and playing it if nobody liked it. Its metal for metal heads, not your 8 year old niece. If you want something friendlier go buy a Hannah Montana DVD or something.

These threads tick me off.[/QUOTE]

I'm one of the people that brought up the vocals. I think that tons of people are into them. I'm just saying that there's no way that bands like Gojira or Acacia Strain is going to break mainstream anytime soon, which is what the OP was asking about. What they are doing vocally is a HO... NUTHA... LEVEL from the way James Hetfield screamed even at his most raw. What they are doing is exactly what you said, "metal for metalheads", and it's not going to cross over. (That would be awesome if I'm wrong but it's hard to picture...)

I would effin' LOVE IT if this was played on "we play the rockingest songs from yesterday to today" radio stations 5 times a day! At least I got to hear this on WSOU (wsou.net)

 
I'm one of the people that brought up the vocals. I think that tons of people are into them. I'm just saying that there's no way that bands like Gojira or Acacia Strain is going to break mainstream anytime soon, which is what the OP was asking about. What they are doing vocally is a HO... NUTHA... LEVEL from the way James Hetfield screamed even at his most raw. What they are doing is exactly what you said, "metal for metalheads", and it's not going to cross over. (That would be awesome if I'm wrong but it's hard to picture...)

I would effin' LOVE IT if this was played on "we play the rockingest songs from yesterday to today" radio stations 5 times a day! At least I got to hear this on WSOU (wsou.net)


I just don't think its really due to the vocal style though for the lack of bands getting the recognition they once may have. What draws people to pop music is simplicity, repetitiveness, and un-originality. Traits that are very un-metal. Like Metallica was just more of a right time, right place case. Where today we have seemingly millions of metal bands, they were a bit more rare back then, and Metallica just had the right mix or several factors to send them shooting to the top of a new style, thus garnering them a giant slice of the metalhead fanbase that had never seen anything like that before. If anything there are more metal fans now then there were before, but there tastes have become more spread out than they were before, so the chances of a single band gaining as much attention as Metallica is slim to none. (but closer to none.)

Also the ease of finding bands now has been detrimental to the scene as a whole. Back then, you had to go find new bands. You had to go to the shows. You had to buy the cassettes. You had to interact with people face to face. All this lead to a rabid fanbase that was actively and voraciously looking for new music anywhere they could find it, and it made the live scene thrive. Now though, even using myself as an example, all I did was start a thread awhile back and now I have 5-6 pages of bands that I'd never heard of before. Am I complaining? Hell no! But things are changing. For the better of for the worse is still yet to be known, as it seems that it is better for the individual, but detrimental to the scene as a whole. But hey, I'm just an average dude who loves music that is the auditory equivalent to being kicked in the skull, and I am far from having the answers, only time will tell.

P.S.

Thanks for posting that track, I love me some Gojira and it gave me something to listen to while I wrote this post :D
 
If anything there are more metal fans now then there were before, but there tastes have become more spread out than they were before, so the chances of a single band gaining as much attention as Metallica is slim to none. (but closer to none.)

Also the ease of finding bands now has been detrimental to the scene as a whole. Back then, you had to go find new bands. You had to go to the shows. You had to buy the cassettes. You had to interact with people face to face. All this lead to a rabid fanbase that was actively and voraciously looking for new music anywhere they could find it, and it made the live scene thrive.

I agree with both of these quoted statements, although I have to laugh. I think in this thread we've covered the whole spectrum from "there's not enough good stuff" to "there's too much good stuff" :P
 
And I don't get the reasoning behind this "metal isn't popular anymore because of the guttural vocals" thing. Obviously this is not the case, as people wouldn't be listening and playing it if nobody liked it...
Well, the fact is, there are a lot of metal fans out there who don't like guttural vocals. I've seen that same complaint over and over across the internet. It's not surprising that more mainstream music fans are turned off by it.

While I like a lot of bands who scream, shriek, growl, etc., I would love to see more bands with cleaner vocal styles who still make heavy music. The pendulum has swung too far towards extremity in the metal world. That has become the norm, rather than the extreme fringe it used to be, to where some metalheads don't even consider a band to be metal if they have clean vocals, or don't have blast beats, etc. I recently read one guy arguing the Sabbath and Priest are hard rock bands, not metal! :confused:
 
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