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Where are the metal bands?

#41
Thomas Kievit said:
Still metal, and big :p
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It's wierd, some album could be qualify as metal but a lot of early record are more prog than anything else. If they are metal, they are in the mellow side for sure with other bands like Metallica and Iron Maiden. To me those band are more like Heavy Rock than metal.

this if from where I live and to me this is metal


a more older band but still from my place, funny fact about that band is : all the musicians also are touring musicians for solo pop/folk artist from Québec.
 
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Clef_de_fa said:
It's wierd, some album could be qualify as metal but a lot of early record are more prog than anything else. If they are metal, they are in the mellow side for sure with other bands like Metallica and Iron Maiden. To me those band are more like Heavy Rock than metal.

this if from where I live and to me this is metal


a more older band but still from my place, funny fact about that band is : all the musicians also are touring musicians for solo pop/folk artist from Québec.
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Yeah, Québec is happening, even if you only count bands with Forest on bass ;) But I immediately dismissed the idea of mentioning bands like Beyond Creation because the OP was talking about groups that could break mainstream and was talking about extended range basses and alternative tunings as alienating factors. I think the rest of us agree that guttural vocals and extreme djent rhythms are not likely to crossover the way Rammstein did. I think the last really heavy band to crossover was System of a Down, and that's because the words are intelligible and in between the heavy stuff they wrote catchy melodies.
 
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#44
totallyfrozen said:
Whoa! That was a really cool video!
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Thank you. Another band I've really been liking is Chrome Division. They're kind of a supergroup black/ death metal supergroup who wanted another creative outlet, but more in a classic rock n roll form.

Here's their version of the Johnny Cash classic, Ghost Riders



Finding good music can be hard to come by now, and a lot of it are independent artists. Metal will always be around, and though many bands are still around, I'm sure that there will be a new renaissance. A few years ago, I was talking to a friend of mine about music, and metal in particular, when it occurred to me that Avenged Sevenfold is today's Metallica. She completely agreed with me. I still believe that to be true.
 
#46
Metal is over.

It is the time of Pop once again, and throwback soundalike Classic Rock that isn't actually Classic Rock.

Kids in their 20's will tell me about some huge "next big thing" band, and I will say, "sounds exactly like T-Rex," or "sounds exactly like the James Gang," or "sounds exactly like Big Star."

Those bands all sound good, but they weren't famous because of their SOUND.

They were famous because of their SONGS.

And that's the problem with all genres. It's not your sound; it's your songs, and if you don't have them, I don't care how well you play.

Rock is dead, but its not the first time.

It actually died in the early sixties, again in the mid seventies, again in the late eighties, and now it dies about every couple years or so.

Where are the metal bands?

Somewhere. Being ignored.
 
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#48
Hamlet7768 said:
New metal bands?

Well, you got Trivium, Meshuggah, Mastodon, the revitalized Queensrÿche, Bad Salad, Periphery, Newsted, Skeletonwitch...
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A while back Trivium even tried to go the popular route and stick to cleaner, Metallica sounding vocals, but their current fans at the time did not like the change and the style change did not catch on so they went back to their old way (which I really like).

I've been to a few sold out shows recently. Killswitch Engage is far from new, but they're selling out all of their shows. I went to see As I Lay Dying (before the lead singer tried have his wife murdered) open for some band named Asking Alexandria....they appear to be a really popular band since they sold out the largest non-arena venue near me.
 
#49
Gravedigger Dav said:
Ha! I love to hear the younger players whining about their favorite genre disappearing. Sorry, guys, but that is the way it is. Other genres you don' hear any more:
  1. When was the last time you heard a band to a disco album?
  2. How long since a doo-wap group did an alubm?
  3. Name a folk rock group that is touring.
I could go on.

Times change, music progresses and replaces old style. Learn to live with it. Some day your kids will think you are outdated for still wanting to play "that old metal crap".
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1) I would classify both of the two big hits of last summer, the ones from Daft Punk and Alan Thicke, as pretty firmly in the disco camp, though few said it in as many words. I know for a fact that the Daft Punk album had that sound all throughout, though I don't know if the same is true for the other guy. Really, pretty much all EDM, and certainly the mainstream electronic RnB/pop is carrying the disco torch in one way or another. People say Michael Jackson killed disco, but really he just took its elements into a more palatable format, and that paradigm is still being followed to a T in all of the current conventional pop music on commercial radio.

2) A capella had a HUGE boom starting in the mid 2000s, and is still picking up momentum today. There's a currently running reality show along the lines of American Idol (Google reminds me it's called "The Sing Off") geared around promoting and propelling a capella groups to national attention.

3) Folk rock is probably bigger now than it has been since the '60s. Since this is a metal thread I could bring up any myriad of folk metal bands (my personal favorite right now is Arkona), but if that "doesn't count" then I could just as easily name Mumford and Sons or any of that other god-awful indie folk stuff that all the cute girls listen to that, again, is freaking huge right now. Strangely enough, the "O Brother Where Art Thou" soundtrack actually kind of of kickstarted the revival, and the kids who were introduced to traditional music through it are now grown up enough to be forming extremely successful bands.

There's nothing new under the sun, and nothing ever goes away. It just changes. It's far more likely that we'll listen to our kids' music and say "You know that this has been done before, right? We just called it 'heavy metal' back in my day."
 
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callofcthulhu said:
1) I would classify both of the two big hits of last summer, the ones from Daft Punk and Alan Thicke, as pretty firmly in the disco camp, though few said it in as many words. Really, pretty much all EDM is carrying the disco torch.

2) A capella had a HUGE boom in the mid 2000s. There's a currently running reality show along the lines of American Idol (Google reminds me it's called "The Sing Off") geared around promoting and propelling a capella groups to national attention.

3) Folk rock is probably bigger now than it has been since the '60s. Since this is a metal thread I could bring up any myriad of folk metal bands (my personal favorite right now is Arkona), but if that "doesn't count" then I could just as easily name Mumford and Sons or any of that other god-awful indie folk stuff that all the cute girls listen to.

There's nothing new under the sun, but neither does anything ever go away. It just changes.
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you are obviously more up on current groups than I. I think the problem is the International Genre Labeling Council is all on mind numbing drugs. I would never have thought of Mumford and Sons as Folk Rock.
 
#51
SterlingArcher said:
A while back Trivium even tried to go the popular route and stick to cleaner, Metallica sounding vocals, but their current fans at the time did not like the change and the style change did not catch on so they went back to their old way (which I really like).

I've been to a few sold out shows recently. Killswitch Engage is far from new, but they're selling out all of their shows. I went to see As I Lay Dying (before the lead singer tried have his wife murdered) open for some band named Asking Alexandria....they appear to be a really popular band since they sold out the largest non-arena venue near me.
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Trivium's switch to clean vocals is probably more to do with their influences, which tend more towards melodic bands like Metallica and Megadeth. I do, however, love the current fusion of drop-tuned riffing with melodic singing. And Asking Alexandria is definitely a pretty popular band, though I'm not a huge fan.
 
#54
callofcthulhu said:
I edited my post to include more specific information on all 3 points. Rest assured, there are more "traditional" folk bands touring big stages right now.
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Could you supply a couple of names, please? I would like to follow up and see how they sound. Not that I am a big fan of Folk Rock, but like any other genre, there is good and bad (except for rap which isn't music anyway so it doesn't count)
 
#55
Gravedigger Dav said:
Could you supply a couple of names, please? I would like to follow up and see how they sound. Not that I am a big fan of Folk Rock, but like any other genre, there is good and bad (except for rap which isn't music anyway so it doesn't count)
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As I alluded in my post, I hate the stuff, so I'm not exactly the best resource. Folk metal I love, so here's some names off the top of my head from that camp - Korpiklaani, In Extremo, Finntroll, Metsatoll. Agalloch is worth mentioning in that they kind of kicked off a new subgenre of dark/gothic folk metal. Chthonic is doing some really great stuff with Asian folk music.

But something tells me you want something with a bit clearer of a lineage to Bob Dylan. Andrew Bird and Tom Waits certainly stand as giants in the modern folk revival, but they did lots of other stuff too. The Civil Wars are getting pretty big, they're on the newer side. Other names off the top of my head...Bon Iver, Fleet Foxes, Iron and Wine. You know. Pussy poopie.
 
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callofcthulhu said:
As I alluded in my post, I hate the stuff, so I'm not exactly the best resource. Folk metal I love, so here's some names off the top of my head from that camp - Korpiklaani, In Extremo, Finntroll, Metsatoll. Agalloch is worth mentioning in that they kind of kicked off a new subgenre of dark/gothic folk metal. Chthonic is doing some really great stuff with Asian folk music.

But something tells me you want something with a bit clearer of a lineage to Bob Dylan. Andrew Bird and Tom Waits certainly stand as giants in the modern folk revival, but they did lots of other stuff too. The Civil Wars are getting pretty big, they're on the newer side. Other names off the top of my head...Bon Iver, Fleet Foxes, Iron and Wine. You know. Pussy ****.
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I'd add Monsters of Folk, some Bright Eyes/Connor Oberst, The Decemberists ... shoot, you can take a look at a list here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indie_folk
 
#58
Gravedigger Dav said:
Could you supply a couple of names, please? I would like to follow up and see how they sound. Not that I am a big fan of Folk Rock, but like any other genre, there is good and bad (except for rap which isn't music anyway so it doesn't count)
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Check out Skyforger from Latvia. They are pretty damn epic. Been listening to them for years ( I'm first gen stateside from Latvia so am biased... )
 
#60
ok then ... with mass appeal ? this is a post with a Japanease flavor

Maximum The Hormone, a weird bad ( but what isn't wierd in Japan ?) they have some very interesting stuff going on
(ok bare with me ... you have to go through the first 1:30 before the real meat of the song )

then there is this one from the same band that is pretty cool and catchy but still have its moment


then just because we need more grindy ... Gallhammer


then why not this ... called Baby Metal, it is actually big in Japan
 

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