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Where is the source of grind?

#21
Magman said:
Thats a really nice grindy bass tone! Really like that.... there were bands getting this tone in the 80s/early 90's.....reminds me of that sort of shellac/jesus lizard tone (which I believe is down to a traynor solid state amp from the 80's) - theres no rocket science behind it....no boutique equipment.

Active bass treble eq cranked would help get this...but I'm sure this sort of sound can be obtained with passive basses....as other have mentioned, fresh bright strings, a pick, and crank 2k and pull out 400k on a gritty amp. Maybe even look at good guitar amps.

Also, really piano like basses (perhaps some higher end ones) may be less suitable that some old beater with grimey sounding pickups.

My main bass is a spector and it is aggressive. I'm playing a lot more with a pick now to get tones similar to this because of the attack.

I'd be interested to know what the actual signal chain was on the recording (including mics etc)
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yeah thats a great tone allright, funny thing is about jesus lizard and shellac there is no tube amp in sight, its an old traynor SS head. and 2 x15" steel strings, no super fancy basses

I also agree that an active treble eq can work up that charging shining high end, peavey mark IV has one in the amp and really works nice when combined with my epi TBIRD
 
#22
Alex Webster of Cannibal Corpse has a very similar tone, except he plays fingers exclusively. He has a few solos out there on the newer records with that tone. Ex: They Deserve To Die around the 1:20 mark.

Alex also plays with a spector, Ampeg amps, and a SansAmp...correlation? Yes. Does it mean anything? Who knows?

A pick would add a little more bang or punch without getting as muddy though.
 
#23
You know, it's amazing what you can do with cheap stuff these days. Even the worst of it gives you some extremely usable tones in all different genres that actually stand up to state of the art recording methods. And this year alone, there have been so many advances that there's really no need for expensive stuff to record or play out anymore. Anthony Jackson may disagree, but his best-known tone was done with a Jazz Bass into a phase shifter and a reverb so he's no stranger to the cheap stuff, either.
 
#24
pulse said:
funny thing is about jesus lizard and shellac there is no tube amp in sight, its an old traynor SS head.
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An engineer for them came up with a pedal that mimics the cranked-Monoblock tone, and does it very well according to the few reviews, but there are no "reliable" TB reviews of it yet. It's called the Tronographic Rusty Box. ( www.tronographic.com )
 
#29
Wow, you guys sure like your pedals. Ready to buy one of these things without ever hearing it...man, I could never do that with a pedal. Especially something that sounds like a cheap old Traynor SS head ready to blow. That's a real acquired taste, that sound.
 
#34
cnltb said:
Who are those guys?
Is it the song that's called highway robbery, or is it the band?
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Dillinger Escape Plan is the band.

Their new drummer, Gil Sharone, is absolutely sick. He came from a reggae background and has enough groove to kill you. He didn't record very much on the new album, but I've seen them live and he's absolutely dripping with funk. He brings the band to a new level, IMO.
 

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