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Which Discontinued Gear Do You Think Needs to Come Back?

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Ha! Out of those of you who listed half a dozen basses and amps, I wonder how many of you would run out and drop $12,000 if they were all released tomorrow.

(Answer: None)

Short version: If any of these items were profitable they would still be made today. They weren't so they aren't.


Sure, half a dozen of you would rush right out and buy am Aria Pro II Elite something or other. 45 of you would "like" it on somebody else's NBD thread.

Another 10 of you would buy a new Gibson Ripper for $2,500 (and the rest would complain about quality control and the price).

5 string Ric? They made a few. Nobody cared.

GK800RB? I could buy you ten right now for what it would cost for a brand new one. Why not just buy half a dozen of them and keep the change and four for spare parts?

Peizo bridge on a Ray? How many of you would actually run right out and buy a brand new one tomorrow (and, after all, brand new instruments is where they make a profit) if that came back? Probably 5 of you. The rest wouldn't care at all....just like they didn't before.

Now, let's talk Fender. Sure, it would be neat if they brought back the Roscoe Beck Signature V in Sheorwood Green with tort guard and blocks and binding neck. But I would be one of about three people who would care enough to pull the trigger. The rest of you would just complain that they didn't make a 32" reverse PJ in the same color (or whatever your favorite OBSCURE combo would be).

They can't win. So why try? They already get complained about for price now. These reissues would not be cheap.

A brand new Peavey T-40 would be made overseas and cost $1,500 or more. The outrage here over both of those facts would make your head spin. They would be silly to even try it. Never mind that if they weighed less than 11 pound you would swear they "aren't right" but complain they Allred so heavy anyway.

Meh. Forget reissues. Make something new and cool. Ampeg made the new PF50T. It nods to tradition without being a B15 half @$$ imitation. That's what I want to see. Tip your hat to the old but bring in some new tricks.
 
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Ha! Out of those of you who listed half a dozen basses and amps, I wonder how many of you would run out and drop $12,000 if they were all released tomorrow.

(Answer: None)

Short version: If any of these items were profitable they would still be made today. They weren't so they aren't.


Sure, half a dozen of you would rush right out and buy am Aria Pro II Elite something or other. 45 of you would "like" it on somebody else's NBD thread.

Another 10 of you would buy a new Gibson Ripper for $2,500 (and the rest would complain about quality control and the price).

5 string Ric? They made a few. Nobody cared.

GK800RB? I could buy you ten right now for what it would cost for a brand new one. Why not just buy half a dozen of them and keep the change and four for spare parts?

Peizo bridge on a Ray? How many of you would actually run right out and buy a brand new one tomorrow (and, after all, brand new instruments is where they make a profit) if that came back? Probably 5 of you. The rest wouldn't care at all....just like they didn't before.

Now, let's talk Fender. Sure, it would be neat if they brought back the Roscoe Beck Signature V in Sheorwood Green with tort guard and blocks and binding neck. But I would be one of about three people who would care enough to pull the trigger. The rest of you would just complain that they didn't make a 32" reverse PJ in the same color (or whatever your favorite OBSCURE combo would be).

They can't win. So why try? They already get complained about for price now. These reissues would not be cheap.

A brand new Peavey T-40 would be made overseas and cost $1,500 or more. The outrage here over both of those facts would make your head spin. They would be silly to even try it. Never mind that if they weighed less than 11 pound you would swear they "aren't right" but complain they Allred so heavy anyway.

Meh. Forget reissues. Make something new and cool. Amped made the new PF50T. It nods to tradition without being a B15 half @$$ imitation. That's what I want to see. Tip your hat to the old but bring in some new tricks.
While I agree with you for the most part. People have a good reason to complain about prices. Especially those of us old enough to remember when the same basses were less than half of what they cost now.
 
Ha! Out of those of you who listed half a dozen basses and amps, I wonder how many of you would run out and drop $12,000 if they were all released tomorrow.

(Answer: None)

Short version: If any of these items were profitable they would still be made today. They weren't so they aren't.


Sure, half a dozen of you would rush right out and buy am Aria Pro II Elite something or other. 45 of you would "like" it on somebody else's NBD thread.

Another 10 of you would buy a new Gibson Ripper for $2,500 (and the rest would complain about quality control and the price).

5 string Ric? They made a few. Nobody cared.

GK800RB? I could buy you ten right now for what it would cost for a brand new one. Why not just buy half a dozen of them and keep the change and four for spare parts?

Peizo bridge on a Ray? How many of you would actually run right out and buy a brand new one tomorrow (and, after all, brand new instruments is where they make a profit) if that came back? Probably 5 of you. The rest wouldn't care at all....just like they didn't before.

Now, let's talk Fender. Sure, it would be neat if they brought back the Roscoe Beck Signature V in Sheorwood Green with tort guard and blocks and binding neck. But I would be one of about three people who would care enough to pull the trigger. The rest of you would just complain that they didn't make a 32" reverse PJ in the same color (or whatever your favorite OBSCURE combo would be).

They can't win. So why try? They already get complained about for price now. These reissues would not be cheap.

A brand new Peavey T-40 would be made overseas and cost $1,500 or more. The outrage here over both of those facts would make your head spin. They would be silly to even try it. Never mind that if they weighed less than 11 pound you would swear they "aren't right" but complain they Allred so heavy anyway.

Meh. Forget reissues. Make something new and cool. Amped made the new PF50T. It nods to tradition without being a B15 half @$$ imitation. That's what I want to see. Tip your hat to the old but bring in some new tricks.
Really bugs you that a few folks dream, huh?
 
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Ha! Out of those of you who listed half a dozen basses and amps, I wonder how many of you would run out and drop $12,000 if they were all released tomorrow.

(Answer: None)

Short version: If any of these items were profitable they would still be made today. They weren't so they aren't.


Sure, half a dozen of you would rush right out and buy am Aria Pro II Elite something or other. 45 of you would "like" it on somebody else's NBD thread.

Another 10 of you would buy a new Gibson Ripper for $2,500 (and the rest would complain about quality control and the price).

5 string Ric? They made a few. Nobody cared.

GK800RB? I could buy you ten right now for what it would cost for a brand new one. Why not just buy half a dozen of them and keep the change and four for spare parts?

Peizo bridge on a Ray? How many of you would actually run right out and buy a brand new one tomorrow (and, after all, brand new instruments is where they make a profit) if that came back? Probably 5 of you. The rest wouldn't care at all....just like they didn't before.

Now, let's talk Fender. Sure, it would be neat if they brought back the Roscoe Beck Signature V in Sheorwood Green with tort guard and blocks and binding neck. But I would be one of about three people who would care enough to pull the trigger. The rest of you would just complain that they didn't make a 32" reverse PJ in the same color (or whatever your favorite OBSCURE combo would be).

They can't win. So why try? They already get complained about for price now. These reissues would not be cheap.

A brand new Peavey T-40 would be made overseas and cost $1,500 or more. The outrage here over both of those facts would make your head spin. They would be silly to even try it. Never mind that if they weighed less than 11 pound you would swear they "aren't right" but complain they Allred so heavy anyway.

Meh. Forget reissues. Make something new and cool. Amped made the new PF50T. It nods to tradition without being a B15 half @$$ imitation. That's what I want to see. Tip your hat to the old but bring in some new tricks.

You are such a buzz-kill...but correct, nonetheless!

Riis
 
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While I agree with you for the most part. People have a good reason to complain about prices. Especially those of us old enough to remember when the same basses were less than half of what they cost now.

And my father's last 4 trucks cost way more than the house he still lives in cost in 1972. I could have bought waterfront property in Atlantic Beach NC for only $40K a couple decades ago. When I graduated high school in 1989, $100 shoes made everyone blush and 24 hour grocery stored seemed like a Martian idea. Inflation and change happens to everyone and every product.

It's not as though bass manufacturers who sold basses for $149 in 1959 could sell for those prices today. Nor could Levi's, Nike or Craftsman.
 
Really bugs you that a few folks dream, huh?

Nah. It would be different if the overall attitude in this thread were "if only". But it seems to be more like "Those idiots hate us and never listen to us so they won't make me the bass I really want for $450 made in America in 75 colors, 10 different string spacings and 285 pickup configurations. They suck".

Daydreaming about an exact replica of a 1958 Corvette in tangerine orange for $7,500 brand new is fun. Being mad at GM for not making it is silly. There's the difference.
 
Nah. It wouldn't be different if the overall attitude in this thread were "if only". But it seems to be more like "Those idiots hate us and never listen to us so they won't make me the bass I really want for $450 made in America in 75 colors, 10 different string spacings and 285 pickup configurations. They suck".

Daydreaming about an exact replica of a 1958 Corvette in tangerine orange for $7,500 brand new is fun. Being mad at GM for not making it is silly. There's the difference.
was anyone angry about anything?
 
Nah. It would be different if the overall attitude in this thread were "if only". But it seems to be more like "Those idiots hate us and never listen to us so they won't make me the bass I really want for $450 made in America in 75 colors, 10 different string spacings and 285 pickup configurations. They suck".

Daydreaming about an exact replica of a 1958 Corvette in tangerine orange for $7,500 brand new is fun. Being mad at GM for not making it is silly. There's the difference.
You know, I didn’t catch that vibe coming from this thread. Maybe I should have paid more attention.
 
I think it's nice to muse about this stuff, but would i want my 1965 Jazz again? No, I kinda think it was terrible. Having to remove the neck to adjust the truss rod is just awful. I'm not even sure it sounded much better than a good MIM today.