In defense of the bridge/J pickup: I had to raise the pickup height quite a bit, but then it sounded great in the both-pickups-on setting. I used that setting plenty, and the neck-only setting. I never used the bridge-only setting.
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Yeah I've seen several JMJs posted with the tone pot miswired as well, causing some funky interactions. A reversed output jack is crazy though, as that suggests they didn't ever even plug it in at the factory!I'd omit the American Performer because it's not my vibe. Between the other two, I'd say the deciding factor is neck finish: gloss or road worn. I prefer the JMJ for that reason, but I'd not complain about gigging a Vintera II for awhile. Plus those finishes are sweet.
Pickups are (relatively) cheap and easy to swap, and the build quality is comparable from the ones I've had in my hands. I had a JMJ arrive drop shipped directly from Fender that had its output jack wired backwards, so I don't think these Mexican signature models are getting special treatment in QC.
Also: the used market on these would be my move. I've seen open box Vintera II's going for well under $1,000 on Reverb and the JMJs pop up here all the time right around a grand.
I guess everyone has different experiences, but I'm a bit mystified (but I believe you) about the precipitating situation about the Fender bass staying in tune. I've never had that problem with any Fender bass, and I've owned about 10 of them over the last 30 years. That has never been a quality or giggability or tuning issue for me. It sounds like some bass you had is trying to pretend it's a Gibson Les Paul in hot afternoon direct sunlight and shade cover.I'm in the market for a Mustang bass and would love your thoughts on the JMJ, Vintera II and American Performer models. What I'm most concerned with is build quality. The last time I bought a MIM Fender was about 15 years ago, a Road Worn Jazz, and it couldn't stay in tune for more than a couple of songs. I'm hoping that quality has improved since then—how does the build quality compare between the JMJ and Vintera II?
I did try out the American Performer and wasn't impressed with the tone, though I know pickups are easy to swap out. How does the tone stack up on the JMJ and Vintera II?
I watched this video (I found the best Mustang Bass), but it didn't give me much clarity. The terms "Mojo" and "Feel" are way too subjective. The JMJ is priced at $1,349, and the Vintera II is $1,179, both getting a "2" in the "Cost" category, while the American Performer, which is $1,499, gets a "1"? The Performer is also on sale for $1,199 at the moment. I picked the Vintera II in the blind sound test, but the guy used roundwounds on all the basses except for the JMJ. That didn't feel like a very fair comparison to me.
What are your thoughts?
In an ideal world, tapes. But they're often buzzy, and I don't have my hopes up about them being silent on a Mustang. So, flats.Are you planning to use flats or rounds? I never really found a tone I liked with rounds on my American Performer, but after putting La Bella flats on it last summer, it's probably been my most used bass. The pickups are weird (not to mention noisy) and took a long time to get used to. I've had the most success rolling the volume of both pickups back to about 50-60% as a starting point and adjusting from there to tweak the tone.
On the off chance that you decide to get an American Performer, do yourself a favor and order a set of La Bella 760F-MUS strings to start with. The tension is basically perfect in my opinion, and the tone is fantastic with either/both pickups. People really undervalue the bridge pickup in particular.In an ideal world, tapes. But they're often buzzy, and I don't have my hopes up about them being silent on a Mustang. So, flats.
Yes, thank you, I had forgotten exactly how it worked apparentlyActually the Mustang pickup in the American Performer is essentially just a split single-coil, it will hum on its own but you get humbucking with both the Mustang and J pickups turned up just like a Jazz Bass. A traditional Mustang pickup is two identical coils with one wired out of phase so that shared noise between the coils is cancelled out, while in the American Performer they use two identical coils but wire the two coils in-phase so there is no hum-cancellation at all. A P-bass pickup on the other hand uses two coils with the magnets in opposite polarity, and also the wiring phase in opposite directions- this results in hum-cancelling that is also phase-coherent (both coils end up in-phase with each-other). I guess Fender decided that hum-cancelling with both pickups on was more important than a humbucking Mustang pickup in this model, though I suspect many owners would rather have a humcancelling Mustang pickup designed like a P-bass instead based on reviews I've read.
Is the width at the nut and string spacing the same on all 3 models?
Is this relevant to this conversation? Am I missing something here?There are two developments. The creation of hollowed out ash bodies and there are the baked maple necks. Both are in my humble opinion one of the best innovations you want on your instrument.
100% agree. The La Bella 760F-MUS flats are the chefs kiss on any MustangOn the off chance that you decide to get an American Performer, do yourself a favor and order a set of La Bella 760F-MUS strings to start with. The tension is basically perfect in my opinion, and the tone is fantastic with either/both pickups. People really undervalue the bridge pickup in particular.
I got my Mustang in 2020 and didn't try these strings until last year. While I appreciate the journey, I can't help but wonder how much more I would've enjoyed this bass throughout the past few years if I had just started with the La Bella flats instead of trying a bunch of slightly cheaper options. I've used similar La Bella strings on other basses and haven't loved them this much, so I think there's something special about this pairing that really works.
On the off chance that you decide to get an American Performer, do yourself a favor and order a set of La Bella 760F-MUS strings to start with. The tension is basically perfect in my opinion, and the tone is fantastic with either/both pickups. People really undervalue the bridge pickup in particular.
I got my Mustang in 2020 and didn't try these strings until last year. While I appreciate the journey, I can't help but wonder how much more I would've enjoyed this bass throughout the past few years if I had just started with the La Bella flats instead of trying a bunch of slightly cheaper options. I've used similar La Bella strings on other basses and haven't loved them this much, so I think there's something special about this pairing that really works.
La Bella's 760FL are my favourite flats on a 34-inch scale bass, so definitely going to try them. I also found the Fender flats on the JMJ to be brighter than I though they'd be, granted they were new.100% agree. The La Bella 760F-MUS flats are the chefs kiss on any Mustang
JMJ uses the Labellas (JMJ as in the real person, I get that the bass comes with Fender flats). https://www.talkbass.com/threads/chromes-vs-labella-on-jmj-mustang.1666944/#post-28906729I also found the Fender flats on the JMJ to be brighter than I though they'd be, granted they were new.
Although... this thread reminded me of the woes of buying La Bella flats. So many LTF with overly bright G strings that won't die...JMJ uses the Labellas (JMJ as in the real person, I get that the bass comes with Fender flats). https://www.talkbass.com/threads/chromes-vs-labella-on-jmj-mustang.1666944/#post-28906729
The Fender flats I tried on my Mustang were pretty weak. Lifeless tone and practically no sustain. I kept hoping they'd break in and get better, but it never happened.La Bella's 760FL are my favourite flats on a 34-inch scale bass, so definitely going to try them. I also found the Fender flats on the JMJ to be brighter than I thought they'd be, granted they were new.