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Who doesnt use compression?

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#147
CrewsControl said:
If you've used an overdrive pedal, you've probably used compression.
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Except that it's designed to distort, which while being a form of compression, so isn't the same thing as using a clean compressor.

Never quite understood why so many people give a rat's ass what anyone else does or thinks about what they do. But I like a good argument, so...

Tubes FTW!
 
#149
taurus1 said:
you're still implying that the use of compression is somehow related to poor technique, or technique that isn't "good".
I find that to be ignorant and arrogant, "is that upsetting?"

if this were true, why would every major recording studio and major touring FOH/monitor rack, contain high end compressors? is it because everyone who records/tours there has technique that isn't "good"?
compression is a tool, no different than eq, gates, effects etc.
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Short answer: I neither said nor inferred any of that. That's your imagination running wild. If it were me, I'd wonder why.
:D

It seems, as usually is the case, that no matter how plainly one writes, some people just refuse to read for content. Not exactly news. I didn't "imply" anything... I said exactly what I said. No secret code of handshake required:D. If someone is hellbent on ignoring where I've repeatedly said about compression, that it can be a good tool AND it can also be a crutch to address poor technique, that's also not a problem "I" need to address.

The use of compression to address technique issues is not exactly news... is it? Does every bassist have those issues? Obviously not. Did I say it wasn't a tool? Obviously not. Did I say that EVERYONE who uses compression does it because they have poor technique? Also obviously not, yet you seem to be seeing all of this somewhere on your screen with what I'd have to guess is some seriously miscalculated reading between the lines mechanism. If I did that, despite having it pointed out to me, I'd be concerned. Why so resistant to plain English?
:cool:

I'll gladly give you a dollar if you can quote any of these absolutes as written by me. Maybe that'll make this as obvious as it should be.

In any event, knock yourself out. See what isn't there. I've always leaned towards reading the written word vs. what you are continuing to do but hey... different strokes.
:cool:
 
#150
scotch said:
Hmmm,... so the op asks:



There's a number of replies on either side of the issue.

Some of us reply that we don't & why we don't - all of the sudden we are being elitist & thus invoking all of the sarcastic hyperbole?

Come on folks, let's elevate the discussion a bit. It makes for a better thread. If you want to call out a specific statement, fine - but is the sarcasm really adding anything?
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I've gotten this reaction before about other things where working on technique can be a positive remedy/factor. Some immediately jump to "Are you saying I can't play?":mad:... regardless of what the person has actually said. I think that screams something and I'll leave that at that.

Who knew practicing would one day be seen as elitist? LOL

Can you performed without compression? If the answer is "No", don't get pissed at me because I can.
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#152
Brad Johnson said:
Who knew practicing would one day be seen as elitist?
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Oh please! This is THE most disturbing thing I see on TB. I can gig with a $100 bass and a Micro VR, but I've been called an elitist because I took the time to practice, learned to read music, and dared to suggest that working on technique is better than throwing gear at it. And maybe it might cost you $20 to buy a good workbook and the price of an instrument, which you likely already have. It's just lazy-ass people who want to be rock stars but don't think they should have to work for it because their favorite musician pretends he didn't have to work for it.
 
#154
I no longer own a compressor but there's one built in to my preamp that I might inadvertently use, if it's in the preset. That Compressore is pretty nice, though.

You can't undo compression in mixing down but you can always add it later.
 
#155
JimmyM said:
Oh please! This is THE most disturbing thing I see on TB. I can gig with a $100 bass and a Micro VR, but I've been called an elitist because I took the time to practice, learned to read music, and dared to suggest that working on technique is better than throwing gear at it. And maybe it might cost you $20 to buy a good workbook and the price of an instrument, which you likely already have. It's just lazy-ass people who want to be rock stars but don't think they should have to work for it because their favorite musician pretends he didn't have to work for it.
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Exactly. Reminds me of another thread where a poster seriously claimed the Sex Pistols were the best band ever.... :rolleyes:
35 years of gigging, I've never used compression. My Ampeg has it and I've never even tried it.... guess I'd better go see what the fuss is about...
 
#157
I have a Hartke VX3500 and I never use compression. Tried it a few times, didn't even like the subtle sound of it. I use effects too, but not to make bad equipment sound good. That whole argument reminds me of Zakk Wylde saying people who use wahs are hiding behind them and they can't cut it without it. I think it's stupid to assume people only use them because of poor technique. Compression has its uses, I just don't like it personally.
 
#159
JimmyM said:
Oh please! This is THE most disturbing thing I see on TB. I can gig with a $100 bass and a Micro VR, but I've been called an elitist because I took the time to practice, learned to read music, and dared to suggest that working on technique is better than throwing gear at it. And maybe it might cost you $20 to buy a good workbook and the price of an instrument, which you likely already have. It's just lazy-ass people who want to be rock stars but don't think they should have to work for it because their favorite musician pretends he didn't have to work for it.
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Please don't perpetuate the wild inference. No one said elitist here that I can see except Scotch and Brad.

There's no need to call anyone anything. That's the only point that was being made.
 
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