Who here plays in MODES ??

[Benjamin Earl]

Better LOL ! ?? View attachment 4597936

Yes, this picture shows the modes with the proper root note. However, it is showing the Three Notes Per String method, and the other picture is showing the One Finger Per Fret method. Also, the first picture shows how the modes lay out over the whole fretboard. Both of these pictures are worth studying.

 

[mike buzzetti]

Yes, this picture shows the modes with the proper root note. However, it is showing the Three Notes Per String method, and the other picture is showing the One Finger Per Fret method. Also, the first picture shows how the modes lay out over the whole fretboard. Both of these pictures are worth studying.

Im glad I got people to talk about this , At first it was just curiosity, now its GOOD INFO and ways to approach scales/modes etc. and how people approach it in playing . !!

 

[Smooth_bass88]

Yup, I use modes all the time. But I never ever think about it- I just play music appropriately.

 

[Spectre Gunner]

Yes , but this is a key area I need to work on to broaden my skills. Especially, for improvising and simply for becoming a better player in general.

 

[Leonid Nidis]

I do now but when I was young I kicked a guitarist out of band cos he used mods

 

[Benjamin Earl]

Im glad I got people to talk about this , At first it was just curiosity, now its GOOD INFO and ways to approach scales/modes etc. and how people approach it in playing . !!

Definitely! I love that feeling of "a-ha!" when applying something like this on the fretboard. It is almost as cool to see others have an "a-ha!" moment, which is why I enjoy chatting about the way I learned the modes.

 

[Rib 13]

Most of all, I try to make basslines 'sing'.....that being said, playing with diatonic modes is an excellent trampoline to bounce back to if im wandering but, often, melodic lines will have accidentals that aren't diatonically correct because certain notes outside those boxes will have the sought after tension

 

[bigthemat]

yes. major scale is a mode. Minor scale is a mode.

 

[Firewraith]

I think and play in modes frequently. To the point that I associate a primary mode with most songs. For example, I associate A Dorian with Whipping Post (Allman Brothers). When I ask other people what key it is in I get lots of answers, with Em, G, and Am being the most popular (that I hear). I don't consider any of these wrong; I just chalk it up to my approach/perspective on modes being different than theirs. I should note that I am far from an expert or master of music theory. I just know that getting my head wrapped around modes advanced my playing ability considerably. I consider it fundamental to how I approach breaking down song structure. Again, this works FOR ME. YMMV.

 

[mike buzzetti]

yes. major scale is a mode. Minor scale is a mode.

The four minor modes are the Dorian, Phrygian, Aeolian, and the Locrian mode.

three major music modes first: the Ionian, Lydian, and Mixolydian

Glad I brought this up I need to practice LOL !

 

[BarfanyShart]

You really only need the Lydian, Mixolydian, Aeolian, and Dorian. Maybe the fifth mode of the melodic minor scale if you got a Synagogue gig.

 

[Medicine Man]

Everyone, whether they understand or not.

 

[Mrtoodamnsabre]

For the most part you play anything in any key with the emphasis on anything but the root of that key it’s in a mode, it’s still in key. So unless you’re just playing what the guitar is playing and on top of that the guitar is playing with making the emphasis on the root of the key, you’re playing in modes.

Or you’re an insane jazz person who’s doing like some bizarro keys that are not major or minor


For me the answer to this is “Intentionally no but functionally yes.” I think sometimes it sounds better to be a little divergent. Bass sort of to me sets the emotional tenor of a song or can subvert it. If you have a really aggro guitar player, you can mellow out the song, If the playing is too mellow you can make it more aggro, but you have to diverge to do this

knowing them let’s you hear keys way better than people who don’t for sure

 

[Paul New]

I learned the modes of the major scale when I was learning music, but never think about those now while playing although i am aware of them. Music for me is more about chord tones and connectors, so technically i’m using modes, but not thinking of them.

 

[Tom Kinter]

You can learn a lot from Lydian!
Someone sent me this so I can't attribute it, but it's brilliant.

(Lydia, oh Lydia, that encyclopidia...)

 

[BtaylorTheRogue]

Yes, but (and prepare to be horrified) I just move the 1. Dorian? Dorian is just the major scale, but the 2 is the 1. I mean, uh, the II is the I.

 

[wazzel]

In the past I would practice the modes in each scale. I always had trouble remembering which name went with which mode, except the Dorian for some reason.
Now I don't even think about it and just practice going smoothly from chord to chord by how it sounds.
I've found the videos of Rick Beatto and Adam Neely and the way they talk about using dissonance to be the most useful.

I had the same issue. When I went to calling the modes a number related to there position in the "key" scale they sunk in over just a few days. I know modes 1 thu 7.

 

[JohnnyBottom]

I'm learning modes will get you through all the available notes in a key but will not dictate the money/sweet notes for the key or chord you are in. There are other ways to determine that, like using 6th chords off the 3rd or 5th to get to the sweet spots.

 

[J_Bass]

It's all connected, of course.

The modes are just a scale started in different notes.

C Major:
C, D, E, F, G, A, B. Ionian.
D, E, F, G, A, B, C. Dorian.
Etc..

 

[Old gold]

I just wrote a long post that suddenly disappeared. It wonderfully, and clearly, outlined, using the Nashville numbering system, the linkage between chords in a key and the related modes (each with a funny name). The basic idea is, ignoring approach notes, chromatics, and all of that stuff, that there are seven chords within each key.

Just using roots, fifths and octaves, even the major/minor distinction between chords is lost (although it is implied - that weird seventh chord with it’s flat 5 is an exception). Add thirds, and the major/minor distinction becomes evident. Add sevenths, and more distinctions occur. Finally, add all of the notes of the key into each chord you get the modes. Remember, you are just starting at a different note of the key and then adding notes of that key. If you are playing chords you are at least implying different modes. And, some modes are more important to different types of music than others. In a I, IV, V genre, the Ionian, Lydian, and Mixolydian are the implied modes, although would just say the first, fourth and fifth.

How much of this did I get wrong? I’m shooting for 85%.