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Who is running QSC K series?
- Thread starter 4Mal
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I use two K8's and one KW181. I got the K8's because of their low weight and size. I haven't got them to a gig yet but at rehearsal they don't even break a sweat with 2 vocals, kick drum, bass, and 2 keyboards - no separate amps for keys or bass.
The most important difference is the difference in horn dispersion between the K8 (105 degrees conical), K10 (90 degrees conical), and K12 (75 degrees conical). So think of how much dispersion you need for your application (mains or monitors) and how much low frequency response you need.
QSC - K Series Specifications
QSC - K Series Specifications
Thanks - I guess. I've actually been all over the spec sheets and have a good grasp of hte differences on paper. Now I'm looking for some real world reports.
K181 would be way cool performance wise but it's to darned big to fit in my car along with everything else I haul. The Ksub (and a second down the road) is where I think I'm going sub wise.
Jazzdogg
Less barking, more wagging!
FWIW, the K-series cabs are receiving favorable reviews on prosoundweb, but they're not exactly effusive about the KSub.
I use K12's exclusively because they are very effective as monitors due to their dispersion but also very friendly as mains. I also like the the bass response of the 12's. I've even used a K12 as a bass amp at rehearsals before. And if I can make one important suggestion: whichever model you end up getting, buy the QSC carry bag. It's a great bag and makes transport so much easier. Also the K-series plastic scratches pretty easy so the bags will prevent scratches during transit.
Like Jazzdog indicated, I too was underwhelmed by the K-sub although I've only tried a single K-sub with a pair of K12's. The K181 delivers what you would expect from a well designed, self powered 1x18.
Like Jazzdog indicated, I too was underwhelmed by the K-sub although I've only tried a single K-sub with a pair of K12's. The K181 delivers what you would expect from a well designed, self powered 1x18.
I don't think a single KW181 would take any more space than two K-Subs and I know it will out-perform them. Give it an audition and you will discover that the KW181 is not a huge cab.
I use K12's exclusively because they are very effective as monitors due to their dispersion but also very friendly as mains. I also like the the bass response of the 12's. I've even used a K12 as a bass amp at rehearsals before. And if I can make one important suggestion: whichever model you end up getting, buy the QSC carry bag. It's a great bag and makes transport so much easier. Also the K-series plastic scratches pretty easy so the bags will prevent scratches during transit.
QUOTE]I have the K12 and Ksub. As in this post we use the full system at rehearsal and I go direct through it. I use the tops for monitors in my 5 peice band and the drummer who uses yamaha electronic drums also use one of these 12's as his drum monitor and he is to freaking loud. I like the 12's for my trio that plays 60's to 80's stuff. Handles vox, drums and bass and gtre. Often times I wish I had bought the 10's as they are a bit smaller and lighter. If you ar using a sub I might opt for the 10's the second time around
I have a PA with 2 K10's as mains and 1 Ksub, then 3 K10's as monitors. It worked phenomenally well for general country/rock cover stuff. I liked the K10's with the Ksub better than K12's/Ksub. I thought they were more clear and punchy that way.
I'm leaning towards 2 K10s and 1 K sub. Size is a really big deal as everything moves in my Subaru Outback wagon.
Plus - I'm not sure that 105 degree dispersion is actually a good thing. I do a couple of rooms where there are glass walls up close and personal with the stage. 90 degree might be an advantage there.
Currently I'm running 2 Mackie C200's crossed between 120 and 140 as tops and a pair of fEarul 12 subs. The little sub's kick hard and with a larger vehicle ... but I'm really up against things transport wise. Going powered let's me lose the power rack (PLX2402, x-over and final limiter).
Plus - I'm not sure that 105 degree dispersion is actually a good thing. I do a couple of rooms where there are glass walls up close and personal with the stage. 90 degree might be an advantage there.
Currently I'm running 2 Mackie C200's crossed between 120 and 140 as tops and a pair of fEarul 12 subs. The little sub's kick hard and with a larger vehicle ... but I'm really up against things transport wise. Going powered let's me lose the power rack (PLX2402, x-over and final limiter).
My band runs K12s as mains. Vocals, acoustic, keys mainly through them. Sound incredible. For bigger venues, they get bass and guitar through them also. Decent bass response for a single cabinet. Definately wont sound as good as a dedicated sub. And Ive found them to be pretty good when run in DEEP mode with bass.
If we were going to get a sub, Id probably recommend the smaller K10s with a sub for lower frequencies.
We also are all about size. Compact and light. Which is why we went for the K12s so we wouldnt need to haul subs.
Id go to your local store and listen to both the K8s and K10s.
As stated, on paper, dispersion is a difference and a consideration.
I think with a sub, both the K8s and K10s will be great and crystal clear with the higher frequencies with the sub holding the deeper stuff.
If we were going to get a sub, Id probably recommend the smaller K10s with a sub for lower frequencies.
We also are all about size. Compact and light. Which is why we went for the K12s so we wouldnt need to haul subs.
Id go to your local store and listen to both the K8s and K10s.
As stated, on paper, dispersion is a difference and a consideration.
I think with a sub, both the K8s and K10s will be great and crystal clear with the higher frequencies with the sub holding the deeper stuff.
Jazzdogg
Less barking, more wagging!
I have 2 K-10's and 2 K-subs. They work great for mid-size rooms. If you're playing smaller rooms you might benefit from the K-8's wider dispersion. I chose the K-10's because I can use them as monitors.
Our band has gotten a lot of compliments on the way they sound.
Our band has gotten a lot of compliments on the way they sound.
90 degrees on the k10 should help you shoot the room a little further, my HPR 112's smoke as monitors but that wave guide just doesn't have that throw as a PA
THe HPR 118's are also some FINE subs IMO, just a lot to move around, it's a 2 people job to offload a truck without a ramp
My cover band uses K12s for mains, no subs as we usually play small rooms. Our intention was to buy the Ksubs at some point, but just hasn't happened yet. We all use in-ears for monitors. The only issue we've had with the K12s was (most likely) bad power at one bar, we had humming through the speaekrs all night no matter what we did - change speaker cables, change power outlets, run through furman, etc etc. The sound pretty good and get pretty darn loud. We used to use Mackie SRM450s but were always running them in the red. The K12s out power the Mackies without breaking a sweat.
I'll be very interested to see what you get, Mal.
We're running QSC HPR122is for our band (vocals only), and while I love the sound, I'm starting to wish for something lighter. 60+ gigs per year struggling with them has gotten tiresome.
I've looked at the K10s, but I've also been looking at the Yamaha DSR112 and the JBL PRX612m speakers. I tend to not like the plastic box speakers as much but the K10s are a big step up from the EONs and Mackie 450s, IMO.
The Yamaha DSR speakers are nice, but why did the designers put the handle on the top? Works fine for wedge usage, but stupid as heck for those of us planning on putting them on stands as mains. I'm 6'3" and it's a stretch for me.
I love the price of the new EV speakers (ELX112p?) but i've read that the coating wears off easily, and there is some worry that corners have been cut to make that price point.
The Clackamas GC had most of these on display. Any chance you want to go audition some of these over my way someday?
We're running QSC HPR122is for our band (vocals only), and while I love the sound, I'm starting to wish for something lighter. 60+ gigs per year struggling with them has gotten tiresome.
I've looked at the K10s, but I've also been looking at the Yamaha DSR112 and the JBL PRX612m speakers. I tend to not like the plastic box speakers as much but the K10s are a big step up from the EONs and Mackie 450s, IMO.
The Yamaha DSR speakers are nice, but why did the designers put the handle on the top? Works fine for wedge usage, but stupid as heck for those of us planning on putting them on stands as mains. I'm 6'3" and it's a stretch for me.
I love the price of the new EV speakers (ELX112p?) but i've read that the coating wears off easily, and there is some worry that corners have been cut to make that price point.
The Clackamas GC had most of these on display. Any chance you want to go audition some of these over my way someday?
