Yeah Beethoven was deaf when he wrote the 9th symphony. Obliviously he knew how to write music. I think the fact that he was deaf allowed hime to write pure music and showed how he mastered music.
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Why cant we all read?
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Yeah Beethoven was deaf when he wrote the 9th symphony. Obliviously he knew how to write music. I think the fact that he was deaf allowed hime to write pure music and showed how he mastered music.
Well it isn't a prerequesite but it is if you are about to play something you never heard before or if you want someone else to play something in a certain way, or to make sure you/he will remember the part like it should be.
Oh and writing down music or text is a more efficient way to remember things ... oral or ear transmiting will always be wrong at some point.
Because most people wanting to play bass just want to play rock music like the bands they are so into. Reading isn't necessary for that.
I'll say it since no one else will. If you want to be just a rock bass player, than music reading isn't needed because compared to accomplished music styles,(Jazz, Classical,) rock music is primitive and easy to learn.
Sure there are some players who are really good but that comes from years of practicing patterns and licks.
Nowadays, I don't hear much of anything I would call brilliant playing by the new generation of bands recording today.
Enlighten me if you know some...
Theres plenty of it there, you just couldn't be bothered to look for it. I suppose thats part of the arrogance that comes with age. The belief that, "what I do is right, its best, everyone else is wrong" always amuses me. "The kids these days" are always worse than your generation, and they just don't make them like they used to? 
How about a story about how when you were a kid you had to walk 4 miles to school in the snow, in your bare feet, uphill both ways?
Oh, for one example of brilliant playing in this generation -
To be honest, most of what I listen to is older than me, but to dismiss an entire generation is a bit much.
How about a story about how when you were a kid you had to walk 4 miles to school in the snow, in your bare feet, uphill both ways?
Oh, for one example of brilliant playing in this generation -
To be honest, most of what I listen to is older than me, but to dismiss an entire generation is a bit much.
You're right to some degree...but I was asking for some names other than what I hear on the radio, can't you name some modern rock bands with brilliant playing for us arrogant older generation to checkout?
That statement just contradicts what you say about older generation to newer generation's music. A lot of the older stuff is better mainly because it has all been done before in rock music so I don't hear anything original.
I will, quite happily, but to avoid taking the thread a bit too much Off Topic, drop me a PM with the sort of bands you dig, I'll send you back a few links to modern bands that I think might appeal to you? The video I linked above, to me, demonstrates some great songwriting, and in particular, some very tasteful, very accurate drumming. While that song doesn't show off the bass player much, I can assure you, he plays very well (jazz background I believe, funny enough!).
it isn't absolutism if it's an overwhelming occurrence. and in this case, it's an overwhelming occurrence.
Well said and not a hint of anger... as such it will likely go largely ignored.
Hey it isn't a really a TB response without a pinch of anger and a dash of sarcasm.
I am currently learning to read. I started bass when I was around 13 or 14 and reading was nowhere on my radar.
Though I have never been handed a sheet of music I decided to start learning to sight read for a couple of reasons.
1. I heard it helps in the theory learning process
2. It will help me identify the fretboard in notes and intervals rather than just shapes and positions.
3. I would hate to miss a great opportunity because of not being able to read.
4. And the biggest reason, it just seems like a cool skill to have kind.
I will say it is slow boring work but I would rather learn it now while single and childless.
wtg, 3506! it will only help you. however, i have to make one small correction again..."sight reading" is reading a sheet of music for the first time, not just generally reading music. at this point and time, you're just plain learning how to read music. you will do lots of sight reading as you go, though...every time you get a new sheet of music.
btw, i firmly reject the notion that reading won't help you if you play in a situation where nobody's ever going to pass out charts. it gives you a much wider view of the music that you're playing and allows you to easily identify and correct mistakes when you hear them. instead of futzing around for a half hour when someone says, "something doesn't sound right but i don't know what it is," you'll be saying, "something doesn't sound right and i know what to do about it!"
i also firmly reject the notion that readers can't rock. i read and i'll rock any of you 20 year old punks in the ground!
btw, i firmly reject the notion that reading won't help you if you play in a situation where nobody's ever going to pass out charts. it gives you a much wider view of the music that you're playing and allows you to easily identify and correct mistakes when you hear them. instead of futzing around for a half hour when someone says, "something doesn't sound right but i don't know what it is," you'll be saying, "something doesn't sound right and i know what to do about it!"
i also firmly reject the notion that readers can't rock. i read and i'll rock any of you 20 year old punks in the ground!
You're too old to rock, Jimmy. Times have moved on, all your sweet moves are out of date! Nobody does the robot any more, and the funky chicken is long gone. 
Its a sad day for music.
Its a sad day for music.
Here is an example of people looking for shortcuts... look at the ad above on this page.
Guitar challenge: what scale should you play in E? More bad examples leading to ignorance of music. The answer is C# minor because it is related to the e major scale because they contain the same key signature, four sharps. (same notes). All major scales have a relative minor, just start a third below the root of any major scale and play the same notes. Problem is one scale doesn't always apply to all situations as the one scale doesn't always follow chord changes that might be in that particular measure of music just because the song is in a certain key.
This method is teaching you how to play a scale to cover any key you are playing in just by playing it's relative scale. This maybe useful for reference but not for usage. Bad concept but typical for those who don't want to learn it right.
Guitar challenge: what scale should you play in E? More bad examples leading to ignorance of music. The answer is C# minor because it is related to the e major scale because they contain the same key signature, four sharps. (same notes). All major scales have a relative minor, just start a third below the root of any major scale and play the same notes. Problem is one scale doesn't always apply to all situations as the one scale doesn't always follow chord changes that might be in that particular measure of music just because the song is in a certain key.
This method is teaching you how to play a scale to cover any key you are playing in just by playing it's relative scale. This maybe useful for reference but not for usage. Bad concept but typical for those who don't want to learn it right.
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my reading isn't so hot these days, but i used to be a pretty great reader...
reading is one of those things that doesn't matter until it means it either makes you look like the man or it makes you look like an idiot. no one will think you are cooler for not being able to read.
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reading is one of those things that doesn't matter until it means it either makes you look like the man or it makes you look like an idiot. no one will think you are cooler for not being able to read.
j
i got your funky chicken in my pants.You're too old to rock, Jimmy. Times have moved on, all your sweet moves are out of date! Nobody does the robot any more, and the funky chicken is long gone.
Its a sad day for music.
you bastards!
dj, you are a fine competitor. you bested me this time, but i will have my revenge another day. and i promise you next time i will rock you like a hurricane.
dj, you are a fine competitor. you bested me this time, but i will have my revenge another day. and i promise you next time i will rock you like a hurricane.
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