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Why do people "hate" Gallien Krueger speakers?

My GK 400RB combo's speaker just blew out while playing at about 4; dunno if that's part of a trend or what. Hadn't gigged with it too much, rarely played with it above 4 or 5, just straight up died.

It seems to be a trend with almost all small but high powered, combos. It comes from driving the internal speaker harder than it is designed for. High volumes on these types of combos require the use of an extension cabinet. 4 or 5 on the volume control means nothing as there is no standardization of volume controls between brands and it doesn't take into consideration the use of bass boost, which most players use to excess to get a warmer sound out of their rigs. Excessive bass boost will easily drive the internal speakers past their mechanical limits.

I blew a perfectly good 400 watt rated 15" speaker by doing just that--I drove it with an amp supposedly only capable of putting out 180 watts. Poof--the speaker was destroyed. Yet I'd used a pair of these cabinets and played quite loud using a 200 watt or so GK 400RB for years with no problems. The difference was, using the two cabinets together I didn't need to use any bass boost for warmth and therefore didn't drive the speakers past their limits.
 
I ran a 1001RB head with a 410SBX and 115SBX...

The 115 broke within a year, and was not warrantied, the 410 was okay, but not real deep...

The cabs sounded like they fired sideways, instead of where the speakers were pointing. The build quality was okay for a cab built in 20 minutes at the factory.

I moved on. Nothing G&K can do to bring me back. I hear so much about higher end cabs (Berg, Aggie, and Epi) that one 410 sounds like a wall of ampeg (volume)....

I can't justify cheaper cabs anymore.
 
I have 2 4x10sbx's to go with my 1001RB-II, have used them lots over the past three years - they're excellent, durable, at 95lbs a cab not too bad to move. I'll always play GK!

The SbX 410 cabs are only 84 pounds not 95 LBS. They are a little easier to move than most non neo 410's. I find that the SBX cabs are a perfect match to the 1001RB or 1001RBII due to the class H output design. I have found that they fart a little with other amps when not using compression.
 
the major point is all modern bass amps have poor fidelity. especially the speakers ! yuk. all those foster tweeters that have a sound like crinkling a potatoe chip bag and it is supposed to be good. most cabs dont go below 50hz. (an svt is tuned to 80hz, and the bass fundemental is at 42 hz.) yes, the literature says its there, but where does it go when you get to the gig? sorry to be off topic. it has to be said.

You do realize that much of the sound of ANY note is in the harmonic content above the fundamental? Frequency response alone only tells you part of the story of how well a cab can handle notes on the low E, and not necessarily how good it sounds on them. :eyebrow:

And what about the low B of a 5-string? You'll immediately notice that very few cabs can reproduce that fundamental... but does that stop the low B from sounding good on rigs that can't produce it? :p

Besides, room acoustics, volume, etc. must also be considered in a live playing situation. Just because your cab can produce it doesn't mean you'll hear it when you're on the other side of the stage and armed only with a 2x10 cab. :D

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I used to have a stack just like that, powered by a 2001RB. I sold the Neo 115, though - I didn't need a second cab to be as loud as I needed to be. :D

IME they are effect allergic, if that's what you want they suit you fine(I wouldn't tell anyone to stay away from certain brand, it all goes in the bassist's taste IMHO)

I'd say just the opposite, TBH - and I've run quite a lot of effects with my rig! It does depend on personal taste, though. My effects do sound different through a few other heads I've tried, but they definitely do NOT sound bad with my 2001RB.

And if you want to talk about GK and effects, I would like to point you to two effects-wielding bassists armed with GK 2001RB heads: Justin Chancellor (Tool) and Flea (RHCP). Now... can you tell me that GK is effects-allergic, again? :D

Anyhow... having tried or owned five different lines of GK cabs... here are my opinions in a nutshell:

- Backline - eh. Not too shabby, but not that efficient, either. Decent at lower volumes, and struggling at high volumes. A single good cab will do you better favors live than a stack of any of these.
- Goldline - I didn't like the response... but I haven't really spent much time with these. Reportedly better overall than the Backline series, though.
- SBX - punchy, sealed, loud.
- Neo - full, broad response, great midrange, LOUD, light. My personal favorites.
- RBH - More aggressive midrange than Neos (more like SBX), but deeper bass and a bit louder than SBX. As loud as Neos, but noticeably more "colored". Heavy, but great stuff.
 
I would say that for the money they are hard to beat, but I also believe that they stack up well with other more expensive brands. In the store where I purchased my cabs I had a choice between ampeg and GK cabs and I went for the GK cabs (not discounting Ampeg Cabs because others might prefer those).

I currently own a 2x10 RBX, a 4x10SBX and I'm awaiting a 1x15 RBX. I like these cabs because they are punchy, relatively light (I could never get into the neo's), and as far as I can tell really durable.

They are not as fashionable as other cabinets but I think that they are a great choice.
 
I know and understand that backline and goldline are the entry levels of GK, and you all have way better gks, but I just got a GK backline blx II 4x10 cab. Its amazing great quality, sounds wonderful, but just weighs alot. But for the price its amazing!
 
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At some point at least 2 or more cabs used Stamped frames NEO's which are great for guitar but warp under heavy load. Now they use the preferred Cast Aluminum frame NEO
I pulled one of the 12's out just far enough to inspect the speaker and the inside of the cab.
They use extra bracing and seal the seam where 2 pieces of wood meet. The speakers have lots of heat sinking around the magnet structure along with the end of the magnet vented for cooling. I love my 2 112-II cabs and just ordered a 115-III cab that I will use with one of the 12's. I used to use GK 700 RB-2 and I can tell you it was superbly built and sounded great. Since I fell in love with a Genz Benz Streamliner 600 (600 Watts RMS) with 6 stage pre-amp that runs at about 300 Volts DC instead of most you see today single 12AX7 2 stage pre-amp running a 120 volts (just enough to make it work).
 
Two words: Hell yes.

More words: I have the slightly older 1001RB (not the II) and I run the GK 410SBX with the GK NEO212. It absolutely melts faces....and that's the 540 watt amp. I think the 1001RB-II is 700 watts if I remember correctly. Plus, the RBH cabinet *may* be a bit louder as it's ported, whereas my SBX is sealed.

The band I play in is a power trio with a loud drummer (he works in heavy engineering and is a big burly lad) and our guitarist runs a Marshall 100 watt tube amp with a full size 4x12. I very rarely get the main volume on the amp above 11 o'clock. Most of the time, I'm running somewhere between 9 and 10 o'clock and that's plenty.

With the RB-II, you'll have another 160 watts on me! :eek:

With only one of either cabinets (the 410 *or* the 212 rather than both) my rig will keep up fine too. You do get more bottom end with both cabs but hey, that's just down to more drivers and more speaker box. Get one or the other cabinet and be happy. Then if you want to destroy buildings, get the other. Heh heh.
I concur...I have the 1001RB 2x10 combo (classic) as well rated @ 540 watts. Exceptional headroom I must say ! Using the 1x15 SBXii and a backline 4x10 it's a beast !
 
I don't mean eveyone, but I see a lot of people telling other TB'ers to stay away from their cabinets. Heads are highly recommended, but the cabinets are not as welcomed by some folks.

The reason I'm asking is because I'm considering a GK 1001rb-II and a GK-cabinet to fully utilize the bi-amp feature.

My reason is entirely unreasonable: I've never liked their logos. Any of them. They're ugly. I'm totally shallow when it comes to gear, and I'm okay with that (I'll never play Markbass stuff for similar reasons).
 

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