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Why do people stop using their indicators/turn signals?

Nope.

The occupier does not have right of way.

The person merging must yield the right of way - but under the law, no one has the right of way.

The law only specifies who must yield.
Nope. Because in the case I was speaking of she came over a solid line. The traffic act overrides "right of way" in this case because it involves a violation of the governing act. It was unlawful for her to enter my lane across the solid line. Granted I yielded to her or would have been hit and I am obligated to yield to avoid contact. But she was also under obligation to yield to me.

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(b) Except as provided in clauses (c) and (d), he shall not drive from one lane to another where such action necessitates the crossing of a solid line.
 
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I'm better about it than I used to be.

What I would like to know, is when did people in the states forget right turn has the right of way (vs. left turn)?

I see people all the time waiting for the left turning vehicle. I don't know if they are clueless or are trying to be "polite", but they need to stop, it auses more uncertainty and I have no doubt, accidents. You have the right of way, go please, I yield to you, that's the flipping rule of the road. It's what (hopefully) makes things predictable.

Rant and hijack over.......
 
While we're ranting about driving... my number one pet peeve is driver's driving distractedly, on the freeway or the boulevard, weaving, crossing the lane boundaries, driving much slower than the rest of the traffic, what have you - it's a 4000 lb chunk of metal traveling at 45 mph and you can't be bothered? Really?

Much less so, but still a bee in my bonnet, are drivers who wait for all three lanes of a boulevard to clear before making a right turn so they can turn into the center lane, either because they're too lazy or incompetent to make a 90 degree turn into the outside lane, or their depth perception is so poor that they can't tell that that the lane is clear, or they want to make a left turn a block later. In my neck of the woods, they make right turn lanes useless because we all wait until the light is green and it's more the rule than the exception.

The other issue is cross traffic trying to make a left turn without a left turn arrow. I frequently see 4 or 5 cars who "felt" that they were in the intersection when their light turned red and so they must exit the intersection. Yeah, right. The issue with that is then the left turn lane I'm in with the arrow gets 3 cars through before the light turns yellow.

I love to drive, but I can't wait for self-driving cars because most people don't take it seriously because they're bored. That's why the appliance-as-car was the number one vehicle behind a pickup for years. The U.S. has a lot of farmers and construction workers or that'd be reversed.
 
Here's the bottom line (ref: overused phrases...)

When you are driving, DRIVE. That is your priority and must have your attention and focus. If you pay freakin' attention you will not create problems for others and you will be able to better anticipate stupid stuff they do.

Unfortunately, few people follow this simple rule.

And yes, I have been guilty at time, too. I strive to do better.
 
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Depending on where you're driving a turn signal is:
A warning (Move it or loose it I'm coming over!)
A question (Excuse me, could I come over please?) or a challenge ( Person driving car in lane you want to change into: I shall now speed up, and ride the bumper of the car in front of me so you cannot get this place I own. YOU HEAR THAT BUDDY?!?! I OWN THIS SPACE!!)

If you drive in San Francisco you can experience all of those from one merge attempt.
 
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Definitely, you know they're going to do it, too.

Absolutely. I can tell a lot from the position and behavior of a vehicle in its lane, including spotting drivers who are planning to change lanes before they even start to move. But I spent a few years as a reserve deputy, and in that role you get a lot of practice at watching traffic, which helps you learn how to read traffic. I can usually pull onto a road and spot the problem drivers around me within the first 30 seconds. I know that other attentive drivers can see the same things.
 
Absolutely. I can tell a lot from the position and behavior of a vehicle in its lane, including spotting drivers who are planning to change lanes before they even start to move. But I spent a few years as a reserve deputy, and in that role you get a lot of practice at watching traffic, which helps you learn how to read traffic. I can usually pull onto a road and spot the problem drivers around me within the first 30 seconds. I know that other attentive drivers can see the same things.

Amazing but true.

Doing 50K kilometers per year on the road for about 4 years taught me everything I need to know about other drivers.

I'm proud that I only been in two minor accidents in 35 years on the road, both times being rear ended by inattentive drivers, one of them an undercover cop!

I've even avoided a third similar event by glancing in the rear view mirror during an emergency stop swerving into the emergency lane when I saw the person behind me was too close and going too fast to avoid hitting me.
 
The first time I lived in a large city, I learned that when I brake hard, one eye needs to be on the rear view mirror. I remember once I saw a dillweed in some clapped-out econobox behind me weaving around in the lane while trying desperately to stop as he dynamited the brakes. I let my car creep forward about three feet to give him all the room I could, and he stopped within inches of my rear bumper. He and I both got lucky on that one.

A few years ago, some family friends from Texas visited us here in Colorado for a skiing day. The husband is a motorcycle cop. We rented a Suburban that held both families, and took off when me driving and him riding shotgun. If anyone needs to have his head on a swivel every second, it's a motorcycle cop.

It was amazing how many times he and I simultaneously pointed at another car - someone in an adjacent lane, or at an intersecting street - and we both said "Don't you do it!"

I was very complemented that he and I were seeing the same cars as hazards - usually because they were in the right place to create a hazard by doing something like pulling out right in front of us.
 
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You have to be careful around here too. When you get on the Bay Bridge from the east side the lanes merge into each other several times. It is important to look out for others who are not paying attention or aggressive drivers who never seem happy unless they are in front of the whole world. (I guess they are never going to be happy)
I am hesitant to reveal this to my fellow Bay Area drivers but if you get on the bridge through the extreme right toll booth and then move over to the very right lane you don't have to merge with any other lanes.
 
Interesting -- but it sounds to me like a distinction without a difference. In practical terms, doesn't it mean the same thing either way -- i.e., in terms of who is obliged to yield to whom? I'm not trying to be a jerk -- I'm genuinely curious.

The difference may come into play in an insurance settlement, or a civil action. The traffic officer will find fault with the driver who fails to yield, but the insurance adjuster, or the judge, may find partial liability on the part of the person who was "in the right" but who also contributed to the accident due to whatever reason.

It's why I took exception to 96tbird's account of a reported incident... insisting on your right of way can come back to bite you. In the US it's called comparative negligence.

Comparative negligence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
You have to be careful around here too. When you get on the Bay Bridge from the east side the lanes merge into each other several times. It is important to look out for others who are not paying attention or aggressive drivers who never seem happy unless they are in front of the whole world. (I guess they are never going to be happy)
I am hesitant to reveal this to my fellow Bay Area drivers but if you get on the bridge through the extreme right toll booth and then move over to the very right lane you don't have to merge with any other lanes.
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been gone for two days, sorry if this has been covered, getting older and my eyes are getting kind of sensitive, every night i drive home from work on the 210 and i'd say almost 20 percent of people either have blinding modded headlights, serious fog lights, their hi beams, or one hi beam and one regular light, this probably goes along the lines of disappearing common courtesy i guess
 
been gone for two days, sorry if this has been covered, getting older and my eyes are getting kind of sensitive, every night i drive home from work on the 210 and i'd say almost 20 percent of people either have blinding modded headlights, serious fog lights, their hi beams, or one hi beam and one regular light, this probably goes along the lines of disappearing common courtesy i guess

Nope, it's them. I've noticed the same thing around here. The big thing these days around here is refusal to dip high beams. You give them a flash and they just ignore it. It's almost as annoying when they are following as it is dangerous when you are meeting.
 
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Nope, it's them. I've noticed the same thing around here. The big thing these days around here is refusal to dip high beams. You give them a flash and they just ignore it. It's almost as annoying when they are following as it is dangerous when you are meeting.

I never noticed it when I had the super dark tinted rear window on my old pickup, but that freaks the LAPD out when you get pulled over